A University of Pittsburgh study sheds new light on the relationship between race, body weight and sexual behavior among adolescent girls. The results suggest that a girl's ethnicity and her actual weight or perception of her weight may play a role in her participation in risky sexual behaviors.
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The study, conducted by Aletha Akers, M.D., M.P.H., assistant professor of gynecology and reproductive sciences at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, and colleagues, further links girls at weight extremes with an increased risk for engaging in sexual risk-taking behaviors.
"This study will contribute to sexual health education prevention efforts, which can be tailored to address how cultural norms regarding body size may influence adolescent sexual decision making. Knowing how a girl perceives her weight may be just as important as knowing her actual weight," noted Dr. Akers.
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Incredible findings for Latino girls! This may be another arguement for cultural biases and sexual behavior in adults.
Great article!
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Yeah, I was surprised to read that conclusion and the conclusion that white and black girls react opposite to each other. Goes to prove how complex this issue is.
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In my experience white girls are more promiscuous. Although, any time I've been around black women they've typically been very biased people. Maybe that was it, haha.
"Risky" sex? Seriously?
It's as risky as breathing is for you. They should do a study on who is more likely to breathe even if someone in the room is sick with a trans-communicable disease.
I would say studies like this only create new bias. There's no way that you can grab any number of people, and claim they show the results for the world. Especially on something like this. Do you think race and weight have ANYTHING to do with sex?
I don't.
Other than the fact that some may be too fat to actually pull it off.
Did they consider taking attractiveness into scale?
I think people just have sex, it's what they do.
Why don't we find out something useful instead. Teenagers have sex because their bodies are ready for it. Society acts like it's a bad thing because of the rules that they've set up.
Nature isn't changing for your ideals.
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I would say studies like this only create new bias....In my experience white girls are more promiscuous. Although, any time I've been around black women they've typically been very biased people.
I'd say you have some bias of your own. What proof do you have that white girls are more promicious or black women more biased?
"Risky" sex? Seriously? It's as risky as breathing is for you.
Risky sex has a precise meaning of having sex taking unnecessary chances: no attempting to protect against STDs or pregnancy.
Women are particularly vulnerable for both, so this is an important subject to discuss if we want to protect the health of our young women.
Did they consider taking attractiveness into scale?
The article was not about how men view women. It was about how these young women view themselves and how those views affected their sexual decisions.
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Teenagers have sex because their bodies are ready for it. Society acts like it's a bad thing because of the rules that they've set up.
That's the disconnect between biology and society. Biologically we are ready to reproduce as soon as the male begins producing sperm and the female begins ovulating. This generally happens somewhere between the ages of 11-14 for most of us. Society, on the other hand, says to put off this reproductive behavior either until the age of majority or until marriage. This leaves a gap of several years in which our bodies are ready for sex but we're not supposed to be having it. Among all other primates sexual activity begins as soon as they reach puberty. As a society we're going to be struggling with this one for a long time.
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That isn't true.
Our bodies are not the sum total of our Selves. Just because our body can do something does not mean we are emotionally or physically able to cope with the results.
Girls are not ready for procreation as soon as they experience menarche. Girls who are pregnant as young teens suffer significant health problems, some of which affect them for the rest of their lives. Mortality during childbirth is significantly higher too.
For boys, it could be different because they cannot get pregnant. Are there studies that look into this? I'm not sure.
However, our ban on early sex has to do with parenthood more than anything. Young teens are not ready to be parents and suffer significant harm when they are forced to accept that role before they are ready. They receive less education, thus have less earning power for the rest of their lives. If they marry, they are less likely to be able to hold their marriage together.
Our brains and our bodies are not done maturing until about our mid-twenties. We need to stop thinking that maturity is upon us just because our sexual organs are waking up.
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Great article, Loretta!
The study, conducted by Aletha Akers, M.D., M.P.H., assistant professor of gynecology and reproductive sciences at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine, and colleagues, further links girls at weight extremes with an increased risk for engaging in sexual risk-taking behaviors.
I thought this was pretty well understood and established. Many girls who engage in this type of behavior do so out of low self-esteem.
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Many girls who engage in this type of behavior do so out of low self-esteem.
Why do we assume that it's low self-esteem and not horniness? It's almost as if we want to excuse the behavior because there must be something inherently "wrong" with the girl that is "making" her do this. Is it wrong to assume that some girls engage in sexual behavior because they want to and enjoy it or do we have to assume that there's a pathology involved and something is wrong with the girl that makes her do these things and it is beyond her control? I thought we were all about teaching people to take responsibility for their actions, not finding excuses for those actions.
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We're not talking about enjoying sex in general. We're talking about risky sexual behavior, like being with a man who is who is known for dating violence and/or raping his dates. Also for not using birth control, thus risking pregnancy. Or for not using condoms, thus risking STDs.
Women have more to lose by having sex than men do. So having sex with multiple partners without using condoms or birth control will impact a girl more than a boy. The boy does not risk becoming pregnant. Males are less likely to catch incurable STDs from females than the other way around.
So low self-esteem is a factor to consider over and above wanting to have sex. A person can indulge their sex drive without taking unnecessary risks. The goal is, as you stated, to encourage responsible sexual behavior. We can do that best when we understand the factors behind what drives irresponsible sexual behavior.
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Hmmm, Loretta, do you ignore things?
I'm sure you do.
I think the words IN MY EXPERIENCE, summed it up quite nicely. Are you aware of what the term means? It means, from my perspective, based from past memories and current events; I personally have encountered more black women that were biased towards me than anyone else. I've also met more promiscous white girls than any other. Does that mean it's universal? Of course not, I already stated how I believed lumping everyone together was absurd.
Risky breathing is breathing in the same room as a sick relative, stranger, etc. Without wearing protection. Life is risky, anything that you do involves disease, danger, and pain. We don't need to latch on to specific sorts to try and prove a point, so as that we may try and settle some conflict within ourselves, based from past events in our lives that we can't shake off due to our own inability to move on or grow up.
oh also...
Females have an opinion on how attractive females are, and what makes them attractive. And guess what? It's the same as anyone elses. Taking attractiveness into the mix doesn't make it about men at all. Do you honestly believe that women don't judge attractiveness?
Anyone who tries to act as if they don't know which members in their own gender are attractive are just lying to make sure they're viewed as heterosexual.
Do you want to run into people that have faulty logic so you can try and climb up the superiority ladder?
Sorry hun, you didn't find it here.
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I'm not "hun." Okay? I have a name. I prefer to be called by it.
Please read this again:
I would say studies like this only create new bias....In my experience white girls are more promiscuous. Although, any time I've been around black women they've typically been very biased people.
You fault the study for being biased...and also add in your own bias. That was the contrast I was showing.
Your personal experiences don't count when it comes to categorizing an entire group of people, especially when you want to fault the study for doing the same. Is that clearer?
I already stated how I believed lumping everyone together was absurd.
And yet that's what you did in the above statement.
Females have an opinion on how attractive females are, and what makes them attractive.
Once again: this isn't about how other people -- male and female -- view these girls as attractive or not. It's about how they view themselves. I'm not sure why that is hard to understand.
We don't need to latch on to specific sorts to try and prove a point, so as that we may try and settle some conflict within ourselves, based from past events in our lives that we can't shake off due to our own inability to move on or grow up.
If I am reading you right, you think that these researchers were using this study to "shake off their own ability to move on or grow up"? How did you arrive at that conclusion? I didn't see that at all.
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No I was referring to you needing to grow up. As you seem to only read what either completely agrees with what you want, or what you want to attack. I've seen it here and in other threads.
I am trying to show an example, I myself know that my own experience can't decide how people are. I am aware of the fact that categorization, in regards to minds, is absurd.
It's not difficult to understand.
"bias" involves ignorance or denial.
I am aware that not all people are the same, does that mean my experience has been different? No. But it doesn't stop it from being that way either.
I can use myself as an example.
I see. So disagreeing with you means that the person who disagrees need to "grow up."
You are aware of the CoH?
This isn't about me or you. It isn't about bias either (which is different from both ignorance and denial...that's why it is a different term).
The topic is how girls perceive themselves and how that affects their sexual choices. If you want to discuss the topic, please feel free to do so.
But please leave all the other junk out of it.
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Why do we assume that it's low self-esteem and not horniness?
With the assertion being that super skinny or super fat girls are more, er, driven than girls of normal body size?
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When I first started having sex (oh so many years ago), I didn't use protection. It wasn't because of weight issues, it wasn't because of low self esteem. It was because of lack of knowledge. I knew enough to make him pull out but that's as far as it went. I was raised in a very religious environment and while growing up on a farm (a sexual education was unavoidable. In fact, it was my ONLY sexual education!), I wasn't informed on how to protect myself. Abstinence only wasn't taught, it was simply expected. Apparently the belief was "ignorance is best"...
I think a lot of parents, especially the religious ones, are afraid and/or ashamed to speak to (especially) their daughters because sex is so "dirty", especially if you are female. If you are male, it is expected that you sow your wild oats even if it is frowned upon in a religious environment. The degree of negative judgement is not as great for males as it is for females. In addition, parents informing their daughters regarding their reproductive options might put "naughty ideas" into their minds. The parents may then view their role in educating their daughters as condoning "sin". I don't think the article addressed the religious backgrounds of these girls.
Concerning who is and who isn't having unprotected sex, it may be that the girls of healthy weight who are taking precautions are talking more to friends and learning more. The availability to and use of viable information may boil down to a girl's popularity within the high school community. I know that in my high school, the two girls that got pregnant were a couple of the prettiest and most physically fit. The problem for them was no access to birth control.
I really can't imagine why being too heavy or thin would promote promiscuousness or carelessness during sexual activity. Maybe it's to prove that they are just as wanted and just as capable of being impregnated as healthy weight girls. Odd situation.
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I'm wondering if the two -- weight and sex behavior -- aren't two symptoms of the same underlying emotions. We already know that girls who've suffered from child sexual assault are more likely to have body image distortion and to either engage in risky sexual behavior or refuse to engage in sex at all.
It seems to me that doing this study without asking the deeper question of why the two appear to be linked is rather useless.
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First of all I young people make choices to have sex for a variety of reasons. I do believe you have much higher degree of success when you have two parents who are involved in the teenagers lives. I do not believe any one formula works 100% of the time. Teenagers are young people and make decisions of all kind both good and bad. Sometimes just plain old luck is involved too.
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From the point of view of predicting behaviours based on evolutionary theory - given this societies stigmatization of obesity - it is expected that young humans who believe they are going to become overweight would try to reproduce as soon as possible - before they become obese.
If overweight people have fewer, or fewer desirable, choices as they age and become more obese, increased promiscuous behavior at an early age is to be expected.
I suspect I've seen this kind of early promiscuous behavior as I've grown up, and later on these people have progressed to morbid obesity as they have aged. Both of their parents were obese as well, which to me was the apparent reason for the young peoples notably early promiscuity.
In so many cases, we are going to become what we become. But, looking into the past, it is perhaps somewhat easier to predict why some people might have done what they have done at an early time in their lives.
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From the article:
"This study will contribute to sexual health education prevention efforts, which can be tailored to address how cultural norms regarding body size may influence adolescent sexual decision making. Knowing how a girl perceives her weight may be just as important as knowing her actual weight," noted Dr. Akers.
It goes on to note:
Caucasian girls who believed that they were underweight, whether accurate or not, were more likely to have had sex and to have had four or more sexual partners. Overweight Caucasian girls were less likely to use condoms. Underweight African-American girls also were less likely to use condoms while overweight African-American girls reported four or more sexual partners. Latina girls of all weights were more likely to engage in a wide variety of sexual risk behaviors -- lack of condom or oral contraception use, sex before age 13, greater than four sexual partners and use of alcohol.
So it isn't the idea that they will become obese. It is how they percevie themselves in the present that was measured. White girls reacted opposite to black girls but Latina girls weren't divided as to their perceptions of themselves and their sexual choices.
That suggests culture is setting the stage for self-perceptions, which then translate into sexual action. However, as I pointed out in another post, rather than look at this as cause/effect, perhaps we should look at both as effect from a prior cause.
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Here's a related study that I believe adds information pertains:
'Feeling Fat' Is Worse Than Being It, German Study Finds
ScienceDaily (June 23, 2008) — The quality of life of adolescents who think they are too fat is worse than for adolescents who really are obese. This was a result of the all Germany Health Interview and Examination Survey for Children and Adolescents (KiGGS) of the Robert Koch Institute, as presented by Bärbel-Maria Kurth and Ute Ellert in the current edition of Deutsches Ärzteblatt International.
But that doesn't explain why the girls perceptions of fat or thin change their sexual behavior.
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#10 was deleted because not much of it pertained to the topic at hand. You are welcome to repost the portion that did discuss the topic.
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