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Drug users going through our trash for empty prescription bottles, then using the info to obtain our legitimate medications.

Seeded on Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:46 AM EDT
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"In addition to providing relatively simple access to controlled drugs, the situation may create serious delays for seniors and other who need legitimate, timely refills of their prescriptions," said David Gauny, a member of the task force.

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Loretta Kemsley

Taking out the trash a few weeks ago, a senior citizen in Santa Clarita saw a teenager rooting through her garbage bin as a companion kept watch.

They fled when they saw her, scattering her discarded prescription bottles in their wake. The unidentified woman later recounted her experience to Dr. Gene Dorio, who recognized the potential for abuse.

"Sitting in the apartment with her and trying to understand this incident, I called the pharmacy - with her consent - to refill her Vicodin (prescription) using only the information on the empty container," Dorio recalled Thursday.

Twenty minutes later, the prescription was ready to be picked up - no questions asked.

"To both of us," Dorio said, "it was a red flag moment."

"They are also going to open houses and going through medicine cabinets," Quashen said. "I don't think we're ever going to stop it, but we can make a dent."

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:48 AM EDT
McSpocky

I never thought about people using empty medical bottles to get prescriptions...

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:13 AM EDT
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Wizeguy

Walgreens used to have labels on the bottles that peeled off. For some reason the changed and now it's impossible to peel the label off. I used to collect my pill bottles and donate them to the Animal Shelter to be used for the dogs and cats. Now I have to obliterate the information and toss them in the trash.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:13 AM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

I've never heard of donating them to an animal shelter. What do they use them for?

Good idea to use a permanent marker to black it out.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:18 PM EDT
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HereAndGone

Thanks for the heads up, Loretta.

I'm a bit careless of what I throw away but then again I live in a condo so I throw my trash directly into a trash compactor so it's a little more safe then leaving it by the side of the road. Still, I think I'll spend the extra time to get rid of my pill bottles the right way. I'd rather not have someone trying to use my identity to obtain controlled substances.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:49 AM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

Especially when they can call your drugstore, pretend to be you and obtain them using your insurance or credit card info that is on hand -- and then you can't get it for yourself because the insurance company or the pharmacy says it's too soon since your last refill.

For some people, this is a matter of life and death. Very scary.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:42 PM EDT
HereAndGone

"For some people, this is a matter of life and death. Very scary."

Your last statement is what really hits home. It's what gave me pause when I first read the article. None of the medication I take is something that I can justifiably do with out. Oh, I know that is more critical for some but it would still cause me all kinds of problems and all because I didn't do something as simple as destroy the empty container before throwing it away.

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

Exactly. The same here and mine are the type that would be prized by drug addicts because of my back injury. Another person in the house would literally die without asthma meds -- which are also prized because they can make a person high.

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:10 PM EDT
HereAndGone

I'm going to have to talk to my father to see what he does with his. He also has a back injury or neck injury, I don't know how it's classified, but he also has some serious meds such as pain killers, muscle relaxers, tranquilizers, etc... and since there's nothing they can do for him, he will never be able to get away from taking them unless a new medical proceedure gets developed that will fix his problems. I can't imagine how he'd make it through the day without them so I think I'll mention this to him the next time I talk to him. He lives out in the country so he has a burn pit and my suggestion to him will be to simply burn the containers once they're empty.

  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:15 PM EDT
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coloradoan-1141358

Loretta,

Excellent seed. Of course my wife and I shred all of our personal documents, but I never really thought about our prescription bottles. Thanks again for the heads up!

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

Too many of us aren't thinking about our prescription bottles. My question is how do we dispose of them safely? I could drive to the Santa Clarita police department, but does that service exist in other areas? If not, then how do you get the label off the bottle? What do you do if you can't?

I wonder if there is a recommended protocol.

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:12 PM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

Just did a quick search. This article brings up identity theft from prescription bottles. It goes on to say:

Take a close look at your prescription bottle. It has your name, address, physician, drug name, dosing directions, number of pills, and the number of refills available--information you certainly don't want to fall into the wrong hands.

  • Before tossing the bottle use a permanent marker to black out all information on the bottle, especially your name, address, and name of medication.

  • After blacking out information on the bottles wrap them in newspaper or grocery bags so they aren't visible in the garbage bag. More people "see" your trash than you may think. A bag with several bottles visible says to the abuser, "Lots of bottles, likely to be some with street value."
  • Read more: How to Properly Dispose of Prescription Bottles | eHow.com

    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:17 PM EDT
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    The Desert Rattler

    Loretta,

    Here are some things that we do. Hubby is insulin dependent diabetic. Needles are put in an empty plastic milk jug, and when full he duct tapes all around the top, and takes them to his doctor's office for disposal. They have hazardous waste pickup. The insulin vial boxes with the prescription on them, we put through our confetti shredder. Also, do this with the test strips boxes.

    Those danged Walgreens, Walmart prescription bottles, etc. It was great when they had the pealoff labels, now it is a pain in the neck. Found that if I put them in a pot of water, and let the water get hot on the stove, I can rub most of the info off so that no one can read anything.

    Now, I wouldn't toss these chemical-laden bottles into any fire. The fumes would be toxic, this is my own opinion though.

    Has anyone tried the pot on the stove method??

    TDR

    • 3 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:28 PM EDT
    Tip4ya

    I'm like most of you, I never thought about prescription bottles. Great seed!

    • 3 votes
    Reply#6 - Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:42 PM EDT
    Megidoloan

    I'm a bit of a stickler with recycling, and with the mountains of medication I take every month, I have piles of those little orange bottles. I've always taken the labels off before I throw them into the bin - mostly because I was under the impression that you had to in order for the plastic to be accepted by the recycling company - but also because I'm kind of self-conscious about all the meds I take, particularly the controlled substances. I've always been kinda paranoid about the collectors reading my bottles and thinking that a druggie lives in the house. XD The companies that use labels that are nearly impossible to peel off drive me nuts! I just butcher them until all my personal info is obscured.

    But I never thought that they could be used to fill scripts!

    However, I also thought that you could not issue refills on controlled substances - you have to present a written script each time you get it filled. Doctors cannot call in orders for them, either - you have to go to the office, pick up the script, and get it filled. At least, that's always how I've had to do it. Maybe it differs by state?

    Anyway, good seed. Nice to know I'm not completely paranoid. XD

      Reply#7 - Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:09 PM EDT
      Loretta Kemsley

      I'm careful what goes into the trash that has my info on it. Use a shredder. But I too never thought about them being able to get drugs from prescription bottles.

      I also have to use a hand delivered triple script to get some meds because of my back., so that part of the article bothered me a little. However, it could be the author messed up the notes and got the med wrong. Without triple script, that could be done.

      As to you feeling like the trash man might think you are a junkie, guess he could, but what's he doing going through the trash? What's he looking for? LOL

      I don't always throw my script bottles out. They're useful around the house. Use them to hold small things, like screws, etc. Also they can be made into artistic stamps with a flat sheet of art foam. For instance, the foam could be cut into a butterfly shape, glued onto the top or bottom of the container and then the container itself becomes an easy to hold handle. All you need is an ink pad and you have a stamp to decorate envelopes, scrap books, etc. Kids love them and I don't have to worry about them messing up or losing an expensive stamp. Or me either, for that matter.

      • 2 votes
      #7.1 - Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT
      Megidoloan

      My paranoia about the trash men probably stems from my parents, who DO dig through my trash. They want to make sure I'm not getting rid of anything that could potentially be useful and want to make sure that my trash is "organized" properly. I can't tell you how many times I've thrown out some completely worthless item only to see it again a few weeks later. I've often thought semi-seriously that I should freakin' puke in the bags or something after throwing them out to keep them out of my stuff. Why would you want to go through someone's trash???

      Yeah, my parents have....issues.

      My shredder is one of my best friends - I shred everything. Not that anyone would want to steal my identity because my credit is so awful and no bank in their right mind would loan me a nickel, but still. XD

      Those bottles have tons of uses! But personally, I can't keep them around. Seeing them just reminds me of how screwed up my body is and that I'm dependent on them to survive. But if you don't have my weird psychological hangups, you can do all kinds of neat stuff with script bottles.

      • 2 votes
      #7.2 - Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:21 PM EDT
      Loretta Kemsley

      It would bother me too if my parents went through my trash. They never did that but they were products of the depression era and valued stuff long after they quit using it. You never know, you might need it again someday.

      They weren't hoarders though. They never filled their houses to the rafters with useless junk.

      I am grateful to live in an age when meds can enhance my life. My back was injured forty years ago. There wasn't much help then. I went on with my life with a simple determination to endure and enjoy my life despite the pain. Now I can get relief and enjoy life even more.

      I love being active and was afraid I would not be able to as I aged. For a while, it seemed as if my fears were coming true, but then I got a new doctor and life is good again.

      I don't know your condition, but I hope you can find a way to enjoy life too. It is a misery to be locked inside a body that just can't do what we want it to do.

      • 3 votes
      #7.3 - Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:44 PM EDT
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      Solidarity Nite

      Just throw your empties into some hot soapy water, leave them to soak for a while and you can scratch off the label with a fingernail or what have you.. I've done it for years since someone I know had this exact thing happen to them..

      • 4 votes
      Reply#8 - Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:02 AM EDT
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