An op-ed in today's New York Times argues, "Women don't need a doctor to tell them if they need cold medicine or condoms, and they shouldn't need a doctor's permission to take the pill." Is that true?
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Why not make the pill over the counter? Right now, its prescription is usually bundled with other women's health services like getting regular pap smears — which some see as paternalistic and adding an additional hassle to the process. Some doctors also argue that they need to assess women's particular health risks against potential side affects of the pill. But, argues Kelly Blanchard,
These are not complicated conditions to identify; women already have to tell their doctor about their health problems when they get a prescription, and research shows that women can screen themselves for contraindications almost as well as providers do.
Perhaps surprisingly, the pill is available over the counter in Kuwait and Mexico, and some American women have been known to cross the U.S.-Mexican border to obtain it without a prescription.
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Excellent article and I agree completely. If hunger, overpopulation, immigration, social welfare and all these other things are such a problem...then here's part of the solution. Make birth control available over the counter and who is hurt by it? Nobody but the people who want to control women and tell them what they can't do.
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remember when you had to go to the doctor to get a prescription for a yeast infection? that medicine is over the counter now. it's a bunch of crap, if men don't need a script for viagra, then why do women need one for the pill?
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I didn't know men didn't need a script for Viagra. That has a lot of health risks too. Why don't they need one?
If women could get it over the counter, there would be more women using it regularly. It costs a lot of money to go to the doctor and pay for all the tests, etc. If a woman doesn't have health insurance (and it is mainly women who don't), then she doesn't go, so she can't get a script.
So I'm torn on this. I want it to be freely available so we have fewer unwanted pregancies, but I don't want women's health jeopardized.
The ideal would be for women to be have access to free medical for all BC related expenses.
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Uh, that's wrong actually. You have to have a prescription for all ED medications. There are no OTC meds for that. Do your homework before you say something like that.
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That's a Canadian pharmacy. Of course, people from the US can buy there but I do believe that in the US, a script is required.
This is from their website:
We provide over 1000 generic products like Cialis, Levitra, Xenical, Propecia, Viagra and many more. All of our health care products are as effective as any other brand name medications, since they are equally safe and equally reliable.
I don't think that the patent has run out on these meds, so how could they have a generic version? I'm not sure I'd believe they are what they advertise.
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Also, there are birth control pills available on that same site, as well as "female viagra" which didn't get the green light from the FDA here in the states.
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We provide over 1000 generic products like Cialis, Levitra, Xenical, Propecia, Viagra and many more. All of our health care products are as effective as any other brand name medications, since they are equally safe and equally reliable.
Sounds suspiciously like a scam to me. Those drugs do not exist legally in generic form. A quick check finds that the IP address is in Russia, not Canada, while they list a phone number in San Antonio. The FAQ claims products will be shipped from India. The English on the site is poor. The domain is registered anonymously through name.com, so it is impossible to determine the actual owner.
If you give your credit card to these people, good luck.
I believe it would be prudent for the seeder to delete the post with the website address.
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Good point Dave. Though worse than scamming your money is they will send you the drugs at whatever frequency you'd like. We have a family member who is now working her NA steps due to a prescription drug addiction that we very easily fed and maintained by a site like this.
I addition, if they send you anything at all, what will they send you? There is no legal generic Viagra, so if you order it, what do you get? Something pirated knock-off that's actually the Viagra formula (more or less), somewhere between 50% and 1000% of the stated dose? Some "herbal" substance alleged to have the same effects, containing who knows what? These offshore drug sites, assuming they don't just take your credit card number and run, can be very, very dangerous.
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While I hate the hassel of getting BC myself--I'm not convinced this is way to go--it's medication that can cause serious health complications in some women that needs to be monitored by a health care professional.
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I agree, Leticia- and sad to say, I probably would have been all for getting it over the counter before I got that blood clot on my lung at age 31.
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it's medication that can cause serious health complications in some women that needs to be monitored by a health care professional.
That's why you're supposed to do research and or consult your doctor before you take the pill.
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Yes Leticia, thank you for asking. I am 36 now, and the blood clot is long gone. They are flippin serious when they say not to smoke when you're on the pill, though.... or any hormonal based BC. I was also on it for 15+ years. I think the pill is great, just take the warnings seriously (I did not as a youngster).
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I never took hormonal BC because there is breast cancer in my family. I refused to use HRT too. My ob/gyn asked why. I told him I don't view menopause as a disease to be cured. He said he'd never heard it put that way before. I'm glad I didn't because now they've proven it causes all sorts of health complications.
But not using any sort of birth control has serious consequences when it comes to pregnancy. A woman takes risks either way. Hormonal BC is dangerous but isn't treated like it is. In fact, if a woman does not use hormonal BC, she's heavily criticized for trying to trap the man.
When does her health come first? And what is the best BC? I don't think there is a definitive answer to the latter question. I would argue that the answer to the first one is "always."
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The best BC is a titanium chasity belt that all men should be forced to wear and the ladies decide when the belt can be removed as the ladies will be the keyholders.
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The best BC is a titanium chasity belt that all men should be forced to wear and the ladies decide when the belt can be removed as the ladies will be the keyholders.
How would that work as birth control? If the woman decided when to have sex, it would be probably usually twice a day (when we wake up and before we go to sleep - maybe more if we met for lunch).Of course I like the idea of me being in control - we could stop fighting about it then. But simply removing the chastity belt won't make him want to do it would it? I guess since the whole thing is hypothetical?
I guess if you were using fertility awareness you could abstain on your fertile days (and get soem every time it's safe), but thats another additional factor (method) entirely.
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Actually I think having the pill over the counter is a great idea, but the problem would be that you would need to have access to a doctor if you had a complication or side effect. Also some people aren't that smart and don't read the directions.
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The only problem I see with it is risk factors. For instance, I have a genetic clotting disorder that we found when I was getting screened for surgery. But to be honest, an exam for the pill wouldn't have caught that anyway so as long as you obey the instructions on the package I think it would be a fine idea!
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I am not sure about the OTC BC, but it should be easier to get and I think that health insurance should not matter in this case. i had gone through many different types of BC before there was one that I could take. I know there are places like Planned Parent Hood and other local health departments that give out BC for a reduced price or even for free, and they have medical doctors that can discuss the right kind of BC for you, however these are far and few in between. Every city in every states needs to be more proactive in the women's side of BC not just the mens.
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My 2 cents on the subject.
Almost every over-the-counter concoction the pharmas have come up with suggest we seek the advice of a doctor on its label. How many actually do and have been maimed or died from not following that advice, regardless of the reason, poor, no health insurance, no access, etc? People die every day of some of the most preventable situations. We need to reduce these stats exponentially. After all the regulation of the FDA and how many pharmaceuts they pull off market because the death numbers have reached 80K+ of heart attacks induced by drugs that passed the FDA muster tests to begin with? The truth is we are guinea pigs at large and en masse. But it is we who accept the risks too and so should shoulder responsibility and accountability in our acceptances and actions. I don't know what the exact balance is but there has to be a better way. We should be a better society by now in figuring out how to limit the issues of unwanted pregnancies across the board. Although I'm pro-choice, it should be when there are no other choices. That is where the problem lies. Eliminate it from the getgo. Abortion should not be a birth control issue. The other thing that can't be ignored or overlooked, is in the education of young girls that they can never accept a mindset to use their own bodies as weapons against boys either, as that happens more often than we women want to admit. (the "I want HIS baby" syndrome.)
This is the one thing I think our gov't's support of ALL it's people should be, is in giving FREE birth control pills, condoms and every other birth control device conceived of to both sexes and have them readily available on every street corner, not in just some sterile county or fed building in the heart of a city. Especially this new morning-after pill that supposedly lasts several days instead of 24 hours. We need something to stop unwanted pregnancies everywhere and every day. Free morning-after pills on every damn street corner in America! Instead of those fools standing on corners with grotesque full color pictures of aborted fetuses, they'd be better off by handing out BC pills and morning-after pills. But would they? I doubt it. No matter the solution, others want to control women's bodies and minds. We need to stop them and take control back of these issues, for both women and men.
As far as doctors, we need alot more of them and we need to figure out a way to "West Point" those who have the calling but not the money it takes and for their free education, they give back to society by working the free clinics to help those who need guidance and tracking on whether a pharma concoction will do more harm than good! There are smarter ways to quell our social ills that end up hurting us all. Especially all those unwanted children who grow up with no love in their lives so they turn their anger and hate on society in return.
We will never stop passion, sex or its drive but we can stop the repercussions of the too many mistakes made by both sexes. It needs to be a collective effort. Boys and men are not to blame solely here.
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Well said. I do want to add to this part:
(the "I want HIS baby" syndrome.)
I don't know how prevalent that is, but when it comes to men and teen boys wanting to control their women or teen girls, they will deliberately impregnate her. Studies have shown that they sabotage her BC or poke holes in the condom if they agree to use a condom at all. As you said, it needs to be a collective effort.
I'd love to see all sorts of free BC, including surgical sterlization, be available for everyone on demand. That's the only way we're going to lower the need for abortions and stop overpopulating our planet.
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yep, that happens too Loretta. Especially in impoverished highrisk areas. We need to infiltrate those areas, break up the gang and prostitution rings that convince young girls (and boys) their bodies are to be used to make a fortune. It is oppression and slavery at its very worst and it happens across the board. And it happens because these are children growing up in dysfunctional families, either unwanted, unloved, or such utter hatefilled ignorance so that child grows up seeking out from any source, no matter how evil, to belong to something, or someone. They are the most vulnerable of our species.
I hate to see people reduced to rats but they are, and we have to castigate this at the headwaters where it all begins if we have any hope of turning rats back to functioning well-being humans. They deserve the best and so do we.
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I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I shouldn't need a doc's permission to take a pill. On the other I'm not comfortable giving OTC access to young girls and/or those who have had little to no education about them. Hormones are serious business and imbalances in them can cause adverse health effects.
These are not complicated conditions to identify;
I disagree with this statement. SOME conditions are harder to identify; especially when you are younger and are still trying to figure out what is going on with your body. And some bc can be very bad for women who are breastfeeding. People misuse/mis-take OTC drugs often, I'm not so sure adding hormones to that list is a great idea.
I will add that I don't think the primary reason for BC still requiring a scrip has anything to do with anti-feminism or oppressing women. I think it's a pretty clear case of follow-the-money. Big pharma and/or the Insurance companies have their hands all over this.
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On the one hand I shouldn't need a doc's permission to take a pill.
Would I be wrong if I believed by this statement you didn't mean just yourself but all women?
On the other I'm not comfortable giving OTC access to young girls and/or those who have had little to no education about them.
I think it is a mistake to assume "young" = "uneducated." A teen girl who has been provided with valid information might be far more knowledgeable than a forty-year old-woman who has not.
But I agree that ignorance is a danger when it comes to BC. Not just with the pill but all BC. There is too much at risk for us to allow ignorance to be the rule of the day. But too often it is because some people believe that keeping valid information out of the hands of the public is a good thing (ie abstinence only sex ed that omits all information about BC and other valid medical information).
There are some alternatives.
Making the otc purchase dependent upon being an adult (but that would not eliminate the danger to the uneducated adult).
Requiring a certificate or wallet card from a doctor's office or women's clinic that proclaims this woman has undergone instruction about the dangers of birth control. But then that would create a whole new bureaucracy to issue licenses to those who are allowed to teach it; making the required videos, manuals, etc; supervising the issuance of the card; and auditing store records and performances to insure they actually did require the card.
But I don't think the present system is any proof of education either. Doctors are not required to inform their patients of the dangers of the BC they prescribe, so their patient may be or may not be adequately informed.
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Interestingly, the US military gives BC pills to all women in uniform, and requires them to take the pills, regardless of whether they are sexually active or not.
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Oh good grief it has taken me FOREVER to get back to this today! LOL
Would I be wrong if I believed by this statement you didn't mean just yourself but all women?
Not wrong at all. ;)
I think it is a mistake to assume "young" = "uneducated." A teen girl who has been provided with valid information might be far more knowledgeable than a forty-year old-woman who has not.
Agreed. That's why I said "and/or." I wasn't making that assumption.
Requiring a certificate or wallet card from a doctor's office or women's clinic that proclaims this woman has undergone instruction about the dangers of birth control. But then that would create a whole new bureaucracy
This is an interesting idea. But you are right, it opens the door to crazy bureaucracy. Although in the case of high schoolers it seems simple enough. You get a certificate that you have to show when you complete drivers' ed, why not sex ed? Of course that also goes back to teaching something other than abstinence only.
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Interestingly, the US military gives BC pills to all women in uniform, and requires them to take the pills, regardless of whether they are sexually active or not.
I have more than one friend who has gotten pg while in the military. I find this hard to believe.
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Makes perfect logial sense. When you join the military you're no longer an independent person with civil rights. IF it could only be that easy in civilian life. I'd vote to give golden parachute US treasury gold to the person or persons (corporate or otherwise) that invented a time-out pill for all boys and girls from the age of 10 to say, 23, maybe even up to 30. We require licenses for our dogs, shouldn't we be licensing people to find out if they're ready for children? Sometimes, freedom isn't really free, is it. It isn't really free when you're born to a crack-addicted mother, nor is it free to grow up in an orphanage with no loving parental support that instills balance, healthy mental growth and spiritual happiness.
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