Breastfeeding Mom Kicked Out Of McDonald's

I breastfed all 4 of my children, and I'm absolutely disgusted by the mangers actions.

If it had been me, I would've told the son of a bitch to call the cops, and stayed seated while continuing to nurse my child.

What a nasty person. How can someone in this day and age look upon breastfeeding as gross or sexual? He needs to fired ASAP!!

I also like the idea of McDonald's being a spoke-person for breastfeeding mothers. They should have TV advertisements showing breastfeeding mothers in their stores.

I breast-fed all of my babies. It can be done discreetly. I simply cannot understand how anyone can view breastfeeding an infant as a sexual act, or as "indecent" exposure. It's what we, as mammals, are supposed to do; it's what our bodies were designed to do! It's natural, the breast doesn't need to be "flopped out" for all to see. There are even nursing bras and shirts designed just for breastfeeding moms.

A mother's milk is the best food for her baby. Formula is intended for those who can't breastfeed; some people do have difficulties. I had to stop nursing one of my daughters when she was 8 weeks old, because I had developed an abcess in a milk duct and had to go on some really strong antibiotics. The others were breast-fed until they were almost a year old, and went straight from the breast to a cup. Studies have shown that breast-fed babies generally have a higher IQ, fewer allergies and are less likely to become obese. Infant formulas that are made with cow's milk may make babies look plump and healthy, but the exposure to BGH in the milk makes that plumpness stick around.

I agree with Dani...as long as it isn't flopped out for everyone to see it isn't a big deal.

I don't like it when women refuse to cover up in a public place. I don't want my kids looking at your saggy boobs! (J/K'ing) Yea yea yea...I know it is natural...but so is urinating...More people can pee than can lactate so you could argue it is even more natural...that doesn't mean i can urinate in front of your kids ...i would end up a red dot on a computer screen somewhere if i whipped it out in public...

Go ahead... do it, do it, do it...lol

there's nothing gross about breast feeding. comparing it to urinating is stupid and insulting.

Your right..there is nothing gross about it...nothing gross about urinating either....they are both natural functions....and i don't want to see you do either....or ...if you do it undiscreetely...don't get mad when i undiscreetely stare...

breast milk is not urine. it is not a waste product.

I really hope you aren't just as confused when you reach for the milk for your coffee and pour in some pee instead.

I breastfed all three of my children and threw a light cotten cloth over my shoulder and breast. I wasn't interested in exposing myself, just nurturing my child. I know other mothers might not mind exposing their breasts but in my mind it isn't a good idea. Some people see everything as sexual and I don't want anyone perving on me and maybe deciding to follow me home. It's just a dangerous world these days for even the most innocent of things. But the manager of this McDonalds was just wrong, wrong. She was covered and there isn't an issue. I think I'd sue.

Hey Ela, I use to work with a sick @!$%#, when I was pregs he would make comments about bf. Eeewww, I mean really they are only boobs! I get to see them all the time, no biggie, I even put lotion on them and survive the ordeal! Do some of you guys think food is sexual? And everytime I reach for that french fry boy do I get all hot!;)

All I can say is, "Idiots abound."

And sometimes, they reach managerial levels in the McDonald's corporation.

Let's hope you called the owners. Or at least the full time manager. (They usually don't work the weekend.)

I suppose with an attitude like his, it is not surprising that there was no one else in the restaurant.

You know, as I sit and fume, maybe you should call corporate.........

Silent shogun, comparing breastfeeding to urinating is a typical tactic employed my men who want to control women. As usual , we woman ignore your threats; they mean nothing to us. In short, men don't, can't and won't control us any longer.

As a woman I find this breast feeding in public offensive. This is something that is between a mother and her child and should be done in private and in safe conditions. Feeding in public, you don't know what diseases the individual sitting next to you has. Take it home, kids.

Silent shogun, comparing breastfeeding to urinating is a typical tactic employed my men who want to control women. As usual , we woman ignore your threats; they mean nothing to us. In short, men don't, can't and won't control us any longer

HAHA...control you?? Lady...i think you have gone out on a limb there...stop believing everything in the feminist books you read.....and to say it is evil men..there are women too, as Becky pointed out, who don't want to see someones fist sized nipples..... Like i said already...If you are covered up in a public place i don't care. Comparing it to urinating was just a way to show people that just because it is natural doesn't mean everyone else wants to see you do it...

As a woman I find this breast feeding in public offensive

Who's saying you should look?

"who don't want to see"

not wanting to see is no reason to keep a mother from feeding her child. There's much worse to be seen that's completely legal.

No one said a woman shouldn't feed her child....just cover up. I'm going to start taking pics everytime a woman has it whipped out..that is legal too.

No one said a woman shouldn't feed her child....just cover up.

A woman shouldn't have to feel ashamed of taking care of her child because a bunch of idiots can't mind their own business.

I'm going to start taking pics everytime a woman has it whipped out..that is legal too.

It's only legal if she gave you here consent to take pictures of her breastfeeding.

"just cover up."

you sir did not read the article well enough.

"I'm going to start taking pics everytime a woman has it whipped out"

clearly you are the danger here.

She should have to cover up in a public place...i don't want my kids seeing that and I don't want to see a saggy boob when i'm trying to eat.

It's only legal if she gave you here consent to take pictures of her breastfeeding.

It is legal to take pictures of someone in a public venue...only when privacy is expected (Home, Rest Room, etc) is it illegal to take pics of someone. Whats the problem?? I'm just brought to tears when a lady is showing the beauty of a natural occurrence.

She should have to cover up in a public place...i don't want my kids seeing that and I don't want to see a saggy boob when i'm trying to eat.

Well that says a lot about how your kids will turn out when they're older.

It is legal to take pictures of someone in a public venue

Not without their consent. You think some random person is going to smile when you point the camera at them on the street? If you posted their pictures somewhere without their consent like the internet do you think the people will be all, "Cool! That's me!"?

I'm just brought to tears when a lady is showing the beauty of a natural occurrence.

Yeah, your "i don't want my kids seeing that and I don't want to see a saggy boob when i'm trying to eat" shows how moved you are by nursing mothers.

""I was completely covered, I was wearing a T-shirt, he was covering anything that was exposed, and my T-shirt was draped across his face," Bradford said. "I'm on my third baby. I've gotten pretty dang good at nursing discreetly.""

from the article you didn't read.

"It is legal to take pictures of someone in a public venue...only when privacy is expected (Home, Rest Room, etc) is it illegal to take pics of someone. Whats the problem?? I'm just brought to tears when a lady is showing the beauty of a natural occurrence."

lying to win a point is a shameful tactic.

How is it lying??

http://photorights.org/faq/is-it-legal-to-take-photos-of-people-without-asking

And yes..i know she was covered up.. If YOU had read all the posts..you would have seen i said the manager was out of line....she was covered up so it wasn't an issue at all...i was talking about women that have everything hanging out.

A- Your trying to make sense to the senseless....

She should have to cover up in a public place...i don't want my kids seeing that and I don't want to see a saggy boob when i'm trying to eat.

Well that says a lot about how your kids will turn out when they're older.

Really? Thats your rebuttal? Attacking someone's kids? And you are worried about how MY kids will turn out? Real mature...you are really making a case for this...

EDIT: The comment i made about being moved to tears at the beauty of it was sarcasm.....i should start putting the (/Sarc) in there.

"How is it lying??"

"'I'm just brought to tears when a lady is showing the beauty of a natural occurrence."

this is lying.

Ahh... You had it under the comment about photography....i thought you were referring to that.....

Either way it wasn't lying...it was meant as sarcasm. A stretch, but i can see what you were saying.

sarcasm implies the opposite of the statement. By saying you want to take pictures for their natural beauty, to be taken as sarcasm it would be mean you don't want to take pictures and your entire point is gone.

I think you meant it to be something your opposition can't objectively prove false (we can't read your mind so we can't prove you dont find it beautiful), so you can give a reason other than trying to shock mothers into covering up for fear of being recorded doing something that's already probably quite embarrassing for them. Something they're only doing for the benefit of a newborn child. It's a sickening tactic for an ever worse cause.

Really? Thats your rebuttal? Attacking someone's kids? And you are worried about how MY kids will turn out? Real mature...you are really making a case for this...

It's an obvious fact that your poor attitude towards nursing mothers will rub off on your kids as will your immaturity about how to deal with nursing mothers.

Yes..sarcasm implies the opposite...but if was recieved as sarcasm than it was effective....trivial anyways...whatever.

sure..it might be a sickening tactic.....however, as you guys have pointed out...if someone is uncomfortable with it then screw them.... It is Legal to take pics of people in public....just like breastfeeding is! If someone isn't concerned about my comfort in having my kid see your boobs hanging out then I'm not concerned about their comfort in me taking pics..... That way we all get to be inconsiderate A-holes...win/win

Auteur:

Yes..and your maturity trying to attack someone's children is a fine example for kids....You are an exemplary role model yourself.... Pot meet kettle.

Really? Thats your rebuttal? Attacking someone's kids?

Oh, for Pete's sake, she wasn't attacking your kids. She was just surmising how they would turn out with a parent who believes the way you do. Do you really feel that someone thinking your children are going to pick up their cues from you is an attack on them?

trying to attack someone's children is a fine example for kids

I don't have kids, but if and when I do I won't tell them to shame or treat nursing mothers as criminals. Good parents tell their kids that breastfeeding is natural and beautiful, and they don't teach their kids to equate breastfeeding with taking a piss.

PNV:

Why is asking for some consideration for my family ignorant? I concede BF is natural..and sometimes it needs to be done in public.....All I ask is consideration for those around you in a PUBLIC place who might not want their kids exposed to it....especially at certain places.... There was a lady who whipped her boob out at the side of a public pool....

So my question....if i concede that BFing is a necessity sometimes and say that there is nothing wrong as long as the boob isn't hanging out for all to see AND you are saying Tough Crap deal with it I don't care about what anyone else thinks. who is the narrow minded childish person?

"if someone is uncomfortable with it then screw them.... It is Legal to take pics of people in public....just like breastfeeding is! If someone isn't concerned about my comfort in having my kid see your boobs hanging out then I'm not concerned about their comfort in me taking pics..... That way we all get to be inconsiderate A-holes...win/win"

there's a difference, you're taking pictures just to make someone feel uncomfortable, they're feeding their kid to keep them alive. You and your kids' irrational sensibilities pale in comparison. Much like I'm sure I make jogging girls uncomfortable in winter when I walk around with my hood pulled down. It's none of my concern they think wearing a hoodie makes me look like a rapist, my ears get cold easily.

Barb:

Yes...she was attacking my kids...she implied they were going to be horrible people b/c of what i choose to believe..... Lets try it the other way then..

"Oh you see nothing wrong with children viewing breasts..I guess you let your kids look at playboy...your kids will grow up to be perverts and breast ogglers"

Doesn't that sound ignorant and like youre attacking someone's children? At least it does to me...it was a childish rebuttal..

Why is asking for some consideration for my family ignorant?

Let's revisit the "I don't want my kids to see a saggy boob" comment.

I concede BF is natural..and sometimes it needs to be done in public.....All I ask is consideration for those around you in a PUBLIC place who might not want their kids exposed to it....especially at certain places....

How about you exercise some consideration for the breastfeeding mothers and stop treating them like the scum of the earth.

There was a lady who whipped her boob out at the side of a public pool....

Women who BF don't whip it out. They discretely lift/unbutton their shirt. The baby covers the nipple and most of the breast. The only way you could see the rest of the breast is if you strained yourself to get a good look just so you can have an excuse to complain.

If you want to be taken seriously, how about you quit using stuff like "a lady who whipped her boob out" and "I don't want my kids to see a saggy boob" and "I'll take pictures." Also, quit using your kids as an excuse. The nursing mothers have kids too.

Blaze:

First off...i couldn't help but laugh at the picture of you jogging...saying it made you look like a rapist..lol

Second: If someone doesn't care i feel uncomfortable with their boob hanging out (IE NOT BEING DISCREET) why should i care if they feel uncomfortable if i take pics? Both are being inconsiderate of someone else's feelings.... And both are legal.....

Point being: I most likely (99%) wouldn't actually do this....i was just making a point that just because it is legal doesn't mean you should be inconsiderate of someone else's wishes.... TO A POINT.... BF in public is not a big deal...it is a necessity sometimes.... So someone saying BF at all shouldn't be allowed i don't agree with (like the manager in the article).... Just be considerate of OTHERS who don't want to see this much in public.

THIS MUCH

Yes...she was attacking my kids...she implied they were going to be horrible people b/c of what i choose to believe..... Lets try it the other way then..

"Oh you see nothing wrong with children viewing breasts..I guess you let your kids look at playboy...your kids will grow up to be perverts and breast ogglers"

Except she said nothing like that in the comment you said attacked your kids, did she?

Auteur:

There is no other way to say it than..."she whipped her boob out" ...Thats what i have seen... I didn't realize you all knowing... I have seen a lady remove an arm out of her shirt and lift one side off...so the whole breast was exposed...that is not discreet. And I don't want my kids to see a saggy boob.... You do? I would be just as upset if someone started flashing people at a public event where families are present.... If you want to be taken seriously how about everyone stops saying "screw them if they are uncomfortable" (paraphrasing) and act like adults themselves....be considerate of other people's feelings and stop acting like the world revolves around whatever you want to do. YES A KID NEEDS TO EAT...but that is not dependant on how much boob is exposed.

Second: If someone doesn't care i feel uncomfortable with their boob hanging out (IE NOT BEING DISCREET) why should i care if they feel uncomfortable if i take pics?

Unlike you, the breastfeeding woman isn't trying to make you feel uncomfortable. Second, as stated before, the only way you could see the "boob hanging out" is if you were trying to get a good look at it.

Both are being inconsiderate of someone else's feelings.... And both are legal.....

The pictures aren't legal, especially for the reasons you're taking them. That's called harassment.

Barb:

Play semantics all you want....that was childish to bring up how someone's kids will turn out.... Lowlifes try to win an argument by bringing someone's children / parenting abilities into it and low lifes support those who do.

Auteur:

If i politely ask someone to cover up a little more (not to stop BFing) and they say screw you...then yes...they are doing it to make me uncomfortable when they were inconsiderate of how much i want my child to see.

And YES..the pictures are legal.....please look at the link i provided earlier...it is only harrassment under certain conditions.....Private areas...not public... How do you think the papparazi gets away with so much ...following people around and etc.

EDIT: Anyone else feel like we are just running circles here??? It has been enjoyable...no sarcasm intended in that one..... It's been a relaxing day off even when arguing on here....thanks for the discussion and entertainment....

There is no other way to say it than..."she whipped her boob out"

And I'm calling your bull@!$%#.

And I don't want my kids to see a saggy boob

There you go again.

YES A KID NEEDS TO EAT...but that is not dependant on how much boob is exposed.

More like it's dependent on how much "boob" you're trying to get a look at.

that was childish to bring up how someone's kids will turn out

It's not childish, it's honest. If anything, the only thing childish is your view of breastfeeding and how you plan to deal with breastfeeding women.

If i politely ask someone to cover up a little more (not to stop BFing) and they say screw you...then yes...they are doing it to make me uncomfortable when they were inconsiderate of how much i want my child to see.

If they say "screw you" that means mind your own business, as in quit trying to get a good look at the boob that the baby is nursing from. Second, they're not doing it to make you feel "uncomfortable," you're making yourself feel uncomfortable.

And YES..the pictures are legal

You can't take pictures of a nursing mother to make her feel uncomfortable.

Lowlifes try to win an argument by bringing someone's children / parenting abilities into it and low lifes support those who do.

Because, as observed many times over and over again, the lowlifes' attitudes rub off on their kids and reflect how the kids will turn out when they get older. If you're a racist, your kid will be a racist. If you hate Jews, your kids will hate Jews. If you have a beef with nursing mothers and spend your time making nursing mothers feel uncomfortable, then your kids will grow up to do the same thing.

If you don't want people to tell you how your kids will turn out, quit giving us examples.

Lowlifes try to win an argument by bringing someone's children / parenting abilities into it

An interesting opinion, considering you brought your children into it. ;0)

See..there you go again Auteur.... You're not actually making any intelligent responses....

BF is not dependant on how much breast is exposed

your reply: Depends on how much you're trying to see

Grow up....I'm making a valid argument and you resort to 3rd grade accusations.... Milk flows as freely with just half a boob hanging out as it does the whole thing hanging out. I said nothing about trying to "get a look" at a boob. You call me childish...but i say anyone who is that inconsiderate of someone else's feelings are childish... especially when you are politely asked to cover up a little more..... the kid would still be able to eat.

Here is the link again...

http://photorights.org/faq/is-it-legal-to-take-photos-of-people-without-asking

It's not harrassment to take a picture of someone in public.... no matter what the reason is..... only in certain instances could it be illegal. I don't know why you have a problem understanding that.....

EDIT: Anyways....Goodnight all....

Barb:

I brought up my kids as far what i wanted them to see.... I didn't bring in kids as an attacking point... You really don't see a problem bringing up someone's kids as an attacking tool? Wow.... Seriously....last post..night

I'm making a valid argument and you resort to 3rd grade accusations

Said the lowlife who said they didn't want their kids to see a "saggy boob." FYI - Real boobs sag, some may sag more than others do. Presonally, I prefer real breasts over those filled with silicone and saline.

I prefer real breasts over those filled with silicone and saline

me 2!!

less filling ...taste GREAT!

A- you don't like saggy boobs? I hope all the women you sleep with are 25 or under then, and never had a kid.

B- You don't want to see boobs while eating: eat in the privacy of your own home.

C- You don't want your children to see breasts? Better not show them any classic paintings then, most of them are full of bare breasted women.

I cannot believe anyone would dare complain about a woman breastfeeding... It's NATURE at it's best. What do you think breasts are for?

And by the way, a woman should be free to flop her breasts around even if she isn't breast feeding, just like men are.

Comparing it to urinating was just a way to show people that just because it is natural doesn't mean everyone else wants to see you do it...

funny how you seem to think natural body functions are gross.

but I'm ok with that if you just aren't hypocritical about it. because I object to the sight of you breathing. so stop breathing in public. its gross.

may be you can concede now that not all natural body functions are the equivalent of urination and defecation??

may be there are body functions that are perfectly natural that are not gross. like breast feeding. and breathing.

and seriously who the @!$%# cares if a breast is saggy or not. how perky are your nipples? men get to hang it out so should women..

"Both are being inconsiderate of someone else's feelings"

irrational sensibilities need not be considered. If someone is offended by the color red, should it be expected to dissappear?

The difference is you aggressively trying to make someone feel embarrassed, vs. a mother feeding her child. It's a sickening comparison.

"i was just making a point that just because it is legal doesn't mean you should be inconsiderate of someone else's wishes"

who has been discussing the legality of women being able to do this? I've only been discussing right and wrong, so this is irrelevant.

"First off...i couldn't help but laugh at the picture of you jogging...saying it made you look like a rapist..lol"

you laugh, but you never rebutted my point. Just because people may be uncomfortable about something, I.E. me wearing a hoodie, is no reason for me to go with cold ears.

Clearly, Silent Shogun wasn't breast fed by his mother long enough.

Or sister, or grandma...lol

Wow..i'm back...and look at all the mature people resorting to personal attacks....yet i'm the one who is childish and ignorant??? Someone doesn't agree with you and you resort to personal attacks.....must be Republicans... :)

Blaze: As far as wearing a hoodie...thats a stretch, but you are right...no one can tell you that you can't do it...thats whats wrong with this country now...everyone is F U all i'm going to do what i want I don't care what anyone else thinks or how they feel....unless my feelings are hurt then i'm going to whine..all thanks to shows like Jersey shore..the hoodie...ehh...i probably would tell them to stop being so whiny too...unless you are wearing all black at night jogging through the park.....you CAN do that...but when someone gets jumpy and maces you.....lol.

So where do you draw the line?? Kardashian just tweeted that some lady changed her babies diaper on the table at a resteraunt and people were mad at her......because the "baby needed changing" ....on a DINNER TABLE...i know thats not the topic at hand....just curious

To everyone else...like ADad and douglas....Really??? Hide behind the keyboards making gross accusations.......

Hide behind the keyboards making gross accusations

Pot meets kettle alert.

Auteur...

I could be wrong..i don't recall attacking anyone personally though...ill check

Uh how about eating in the dining room and peeing, pooping, and changing diapers in the bathroom? Didn't your parents teach y'all anything about germs and stuff?

My point with the changing diapers thing was where does it stop?? Management was scared to say anything to her for fear they would stage a poop in.....

BUT you are right..not the same thing...sorry....

NO..my argument was not that he shouldn't wear the hoodie..that would be stupid..... I'm saying there are extremes on both ends and there should be some common ground.... Anyone who says a baby shouldn't be fed in public is wrong....And anyone that feeds the baby undiscreetly is wrong.....there is a happy medium to be found.

Didn't your parents teach y'all anything about germs and stuff?

They forgot to tell the PBF-phobes that breastfeeding is in no way comparable to acts where toxic waste is expelled from the body.

They forgot to tell the PBF-phobes that breastfeeding is in no way comparable to acts where toxic waste is expelled from the body.

Can anything be passed through breastmilk?? I agree it isn't anything comparable to feces.....but is there a possibility you can spread anything through it?

but is there a possibility you can spread anything through it?

Why don't you go do a little research and educate yourself.

I guess i'll take that as a yes then.....

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0887/is_6_19/ai_63059085/

http://www.aids.org/factsheets/150-Stopping-the-Spread-of-HIV.html

HIV can also be spread from a mother to her child during pregnancy or delivery. This is called "vertical transmission." A baby can also be infected by drinking an infected woman's breast milk. Fact Sheet 611 has more information on pregnancy. Adults exposed to breast milk of an HIV-infected woman may also be exposed to HIV.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5889696_can-hpv-passed-through-breastmilk_.html

HIV and HPV were the main ones listed on a quick google search.....I'm sure there are plenty more.

If the mother has an infectious disease her baby can catch it through her milk - duh of course. But no one else is going to.

No one else can get it unless they make contact with an open wound...or ingest it....CHances are slim I am sure...but there probably is a greater chance someone would more than likely ingest some at a resteraunt......i don't trust anyone to clean well there...especially when a RR is busy...

HIV can also be spread from a mother to her child during pregnancy or delivery. This is called "vertical transmission." A baby can also be infected by drinking an infected woman's breast milk. Fact Sheet 611 has more information on pregnancy. Adults exposed to breast milk of an HIV-infected woman may also be exposed to HIV.

PBF-phobes exit stage right. A-hole homophobes enter stage left.

How many times has anyone seen a nursing mother squirting her breast milk at passerby who happen to have an open wound? Get real. You can also get herpes from sitting ona toilet seat.

Do you realize how much of someone else's breast milk you would have to drink to catch something from them? You would have to weigh like 10 lbs, and suck on their boob almost 24/7 in order to get that much. You really don't understand this very well do you?

Not only that, but Silent, you do realize you are talking about a fast food restaurant. They use beef treated with ammonia. People with all sorts of germs come in and out. They wipe the tables down (occasionally) with wet rags infested with who knows what. The minute possibility of anyone catching anything from breastmilk is the least of the worries.

Considering breastfeeding has existed since long before the rubber nipple, during every plague imaginable; I'll still side with its tried and true method of taking care of a child.

Wasn't there also an incident where a little girl found a condom in her happy meal?

HIV was just one example....And yes the smaller you are the greater the chance from what i gather...say like a kid.... Transmission rates to infants breastfeeding was around 50 percent..just FYI....i found that interesting.

And yes...a condom is the same thing as catching a life changing disease.. :/

Anyways...off topic somewhat again...i was just curious and i got an answer.

Here is a scenario i would like to present....... I'm at my Father in Laws house..... We are having a reunion..... His step daughter around 26 starts BFing in the living room.....Father in law asked her to go into the bedroom and she has a melt down at the reunion.... (wouldn't be a family reunion without a meltdown I guess) ... She goes through the arguments "You wouldn't eat in the bedroom" him "actually i do sometimes".... Do you think she was off base there? I mean..it is HIS house?? I'm honestly just curious as to what your opinion is on this....

I mean..it is HIS house??

But she's the guest.

Loretta...

I have NEVER once in here said a woman should not BF in the "Public Domain"..... My whole argument was about HOW MUCH needs to be covered up.... There is no reason to have your whole boob out when BF....anyone who just lifts up the shirt a bit i don't see a problem with..... BF in public all you want.....Just have some consideration of other people's feelings who may not want their child exposed to a boob at the pool.

Back to another thing..for everyone getting heart burn over the "saggy boob" portion of it.....I could care less if it was saggy or tight...thats besides the point.....

If your father in law was an educated man, he wouldn't have asked her to leave in the first place.

SS, are you against bikinis at the pool also? I bet you see more from some of those swimsuits then you ever will from a breastfeeding mother.

My whole argument was about HOW MUCH needs to be covered up

No, your argument was that you didn't want your kids to see a "saggy boob" and how you'd take photos of mothers nursing in public to get back at them.

There is no reason to have your whole boob out when BF

The baby's head covers up most of the boob. The only way you could see the whole boob is if you leaned over to look.

anyone who just lifts up the shirt a bit i don't see a problem with

Why are you trying to get a good look at the boob anyway?

Just have some consideration of other people's feelings who may not want their child exposed to a boob at the pool.

How about you have some consideration and quit shaming nursing mothers because you're too weak to look away.

Meltdown is the only way to describe someone cussing someone out and throwing things...wouldn't you agree?? Yet I'm a misogynist??? Wow......Well i will agree with you on that whose choice it is.....it is HIS house.....and i am sure if someone came into your house doing something you didn't like you would tell them to leave?? Or were you saying you would let them do whatever they wanted in your house?? And you assume there is control issues in the house??? From that??? Asking someone to go into a spare bedroom bedroom...yea..what a control freak womanizer...lol. Dysfunctional too from that?? It's his step daughter by marriage...who was 21 when he married..he barely knows her.....

Auteur...

You keep saying the same things over and over that i have already responded to.....Not wanting my kid to see a "saggy boob" is my choice...To attack someone over their parenting choices is sad....regardless of what i choose to let my kids see is my choice....I will decide when it is appropriate for them to see things and WHEN i want to set them down and talk to them about things is MY choice.....Very closeminded of you to assume to know what is best for someone else's children....I am POSITIVE all of you would take offense to someone who would assume to know what is best FOR YOUR CHILDREN....

WHERE IS THE PROBLEM with compromise??? Are you guys so narrow minded you are not willing to concede that in Public is the best time to at least be discreet about it?

....I am POSITIVE all of you would take offense to someone who would assume to know what is best FOR YOUR CHILDREN....

Yet is that not what you are doing when you are suggesting a woman not breastfeed when the child is hungry? To cover up or bottle feed when in public even if the child does not take a bottle or does not like to be covered. But you know what is best for that child. Most breastfeeding mothers are discreet but you in your anger want to embarrass them by taking pictures of them. Is that not telling the woman you know what is best?

So how do you tell your children about the Victoria Secret commercials that appear on primetime TV? Do you find that offensive as well or do you just ignore the ads of women romping around in their underwear?

Nica...

once again....Please let this sink in this time...... I am NOT repeat NOT against a woman breast feeding in public.....I am against a woman baring her whole breast in a public area INDISCREETELY regardless of how others may feel....

The photo thing..like i have said...I most likely would NOT actually do that....Unless the lady was just extremely inconsiderate..... My point was with the photos...was that YES they are BOTH Legal to do....However...only an inconsiderate Ahole would not compromise and not care about someone elses polite wishes....

SS, this woman had her shirt covering her breast that was not covered by the baby - how much more discreet can a woman get - DID that SINK IN????? If you had no problem with this woman why did you get all bent out of shape about the article?

Nica..

You really shouldn't jump into a conversation if you hadn't read the whole thing.....Let it absorb for a minute....then continue

I have stated ABOVE...the manager was WRONG!! W-R-O-N-G....

I made a comment about not liking when a woman is indiscreet.....BUT that the manager was in the wrong ....People got all bent out of shape at my saying Indiscreet is inconsiderate.....

You cannot control everything your children will see or hear, so let's not pretend you can or even should. The goal of raising children is to teach them how to be competent adults. Competent adults don't have a "meltdown" because a woman breastfeeds her babe.

The woman was the one that had the meltdown because she was asked to go into another room politely ...in his house. I never said i can control everything my child sees....but i can ask someone to show a little more discretion.

Your version of "compromise" seems to be "I get my own way and she has to do what I tell her."

How is asking someone to continue BF but not have your entire boob hanging out not compromising?? Everyone saying I will show as much of my breast as i want and screw everyone else if they are uncomfortable seems to be more of the ones saying "I do whatever I want and screw how everyone else feels.

You're right. Only a rude person would not care about someone else's wishes...like those of the breastfeeding mother. Funny how you expect her to care about your wishes (a stranger) more than the needs of her child.

Once again..you guys keep saying the same thing without directly responding on what i have said.... When have i EVER said a woman shouldn't BF in public..please stop saying that. Answer the question: Will the milk flow just as well if a woman discreetely lifts her shirt up as opposed to having the entire boob hanging out...I'm not talking about putting a towel over the head...if the child will not nurse like that. The child would still be able to eat.....so how is that inconsiderate of the child's needs?

I suggest you get used to the idea that what she did was legal, covering or not covering. The fact that she was being discreet by going into another area and covering up seems to have escaped you in your bent toward demonizing all breastfeeding mothers who are probably carrying lethal diseases for the sole purpose of infecting you and who is no doubt only breastfeeding so as to offend your desire to only see a visually tantalizing breast while engaged in a gawking stare.

Two parts...The fact that i have stated several times that the manager in this instance was WRONG seems to have escaped you...why do i have to keep responding to the same thing? SECOND....The diseases thing was a serious question i was ASKING...i was told rudely to read and educate myself by a immature person who was acting like a 3rd grader when all i was trying to do was carry on a conversation like an adult.....so i did some research and posted the links which was interesting...i even said the chance would be slim....False accusations again.
ONE MORE TIME....I don't care what the boob looks like...Everyone's attempts to try to label me as somekind of Ahole who only wants to see Perky boobs are sad...it is childish and a very poor way to try and carry a discussion and a very poor reflection on people who are supposed to be adults.

Your entire argument reeks of "I get to define how women are seen and what they do in a public space because men get to dominate women."

Your entire argument reeks of "Anything A man says is EVIL...bad bad men...." It is getting sad.....when have i ever said men should dominate women....Stop reaching for some underlying woman hating theme....there are plenty of WOMEN i know who don't appreciate non discreeteness in the matter too....

Edit: I HAVE to mow and clean for a bit...or my better half who i dominate will kill me... Even though it is my day off...bad bad women

PNV- Ditto & touche'

Silent:

Hide behind the keyboards making gross accusations.

Wasn't hiding... I took a nap, and I was *joking*. Lighten up. If she changed her kid on the table, the wipes she uses on her kid can easily clean up any mess on the table. Maybe u don't like my humor... It wouldn't be the first time. But, get to know me before u start saying that I'm makin' "gross accusations". Or gee, ask for clarification.

you guys keep saying the same thing without directly responding on what i have said

Isn't that what you were doing?

When have i EVER said a woman shouldn't BF in public

When you said you didn't want to see a "saggy boob" or your kids to see a "saggy boob" and when you said you'd take pictures of mothers nursing in public.

Will the milk flow just as well if a woman discreetely lifts her shirt up as opposed to having the entire boob hanging out

Nursing mothers are very discreet. You're the one being indiscreet by trying to get a good look at her breast so you can claim her whole boob is "hanging out."

so how is that inconsiderate of the child's needs?

Babies like to see their mother's faces when they nurse. It's comforting for the child.

ADad, PNV

Sorry...i wasn't sure if it was a malicious remark or not..... No harm no Foul..... Apologies for the misunderstanding. Adad...just a not on the diaper changing....That I will NEVER agree too....Changing a kid on a public dining table is Disgusting..... BUT it wasn't the topic ...someone pointed that out....I don't want to get in trouble...... S.O.S. :)

Auteur...

Please read everything again...it is frustrating to try and carry on a SERIOUS discussion.... I don't know if you have self esteem issues about your boobs or something...BUT i have already stated numerous times... I have no problem with BF in public.... I just don't want to see an entire boob, saggy, stretchmarked, perky, enhanced or otherwise while I am eating/with my family/public area....

If Nursing mothers were so discreet I wouldn't have an issue...stop acting like it is an all or nothing issue...Grow up and admit, which you already know is true (but are to stubborn to admit) that not ALL nursing mothers are discreet....i have seen several women who nearly took their entire shirt off....Not making it up....

You are acting extremely childish by not engaging in a serious dialouge....i have my view and instead of discussing it like an adult you choose to keep accusing me that I'm "Trying to get a good look at someone's boob" I am done talking with you and will not respond until you grow up and discuss things like an adult instead of resorting to attacking someone......

I have no problem with BF in public.... I just don't want to see an entire boob, saggy, stretchmarked, perky, enhanced or otherwise while I am eating/with my family/public area....

You just contradicted yourself with that whole sentence.

while I am eating/with my family/public area....

What do you think the nursing mothers are doing?

If Nursing mothers were so discreet I wouldn't have an issue

You wouldn't have an issue if you didn't try so hard to get a good look at a nursing mother's breast. Why don't you be discreet by not looking at women when they're nursing their babies.

it is frustrating to try and carry on a SERIOUS discussion

And you expect people to take you seriously with the way you act about breastfeeding in public by shaming nursing mothers and using photography as a way to harass and make them feel bad about taking care of their children and acting like nursing mothers are out to get you?

I wonder. If more men breastfed babies, would people still be so uptight about public breastfeeding?

In a word....NO!

Time to take your pills now SS. Now here's your fuzzy blanket and stuffed monkey, go to your room and take a nice long nap.

Silent:

Changing a kid on a public dining table is Disgusting

Yeah, true, but as I am in a wheelchair, I usually did what was "in reach" for me. if that was a table, I used it. But, I did seriously clean up afterwards... and I did usually carry a mat. Until she was able to walk. Then I took her into the wheelchair accessible stall and had her go potty, until she was able to go into the women's restroom by her self.

But that's me. Yet, I do understand ur point. No worries... No harm, no foul.

Are you serious?? You're sitting here calling me ignorant and a misogynist and you are now saying i'm insulting you?? Fine...whatever....keep acting like a that....Very few people were actually trying to carry on a discussion....your boy auteur hasn't contributed anything

Time to take your pills now SS. Now here's your fuzzy blanket and stuffed monkey, go to your room and take a nice long nap.\

But thats contributing to the discussion and not attacking someone?? I think the you knew i hit a little to close to home...

BTW, my daddy told me if I didn't like the depth of the hole I was digging, I should stop digging. Guess your daddy didn't tell you that.

Yea..that wasn't personal at all.... lmao

BTW, my daddy told me if I didn't like the depth of the hole I was digging, I should stop digging. Guess your daddy didn't tell you that.

Well, when one hole got too deep, an attempted deflection to a new hole was made (new story about woman having a meltdown), and that didn't seem to help either.

Me thinks some one lost his arguement and should just shut up,

you will never win. I appreciate you side of this seed, but to drag it out trying to win the arguement is just childish.

state your point dont argue and let it go at that,

Some things you say I agree Ive been around many years and have seen many moms feeding their babies its the most precious site a man can see. besides seeing the child born.

Yes some are not discreet, but they are few and far between.

but your in a no win situation. take time to read everyones statements and youll see the whole picture.

Just havin my say.

No one was trying to deflect the direction of anything... I'm just discussing...instead of asking questions and DISCUSSING things...all anyone cares to do is throw it words, twist mine around, and blatantly accuse me of saying things i didn't say....
IE

ME: I think a woman should be discreet
Everyone else: Your a masogynist....ignorant...go get your blanket and go to bed....Your trying to control women..bla bla bla...

Wouldn't the adult thing to do would be to ask me why i feel that way....try to ask questions...??
No..everyone who is supposedly "open minded" resorts to attacking parenting techniques...calling names....real mature.... You only want open discussion if everyone agrees with you...typical left/right extremists

EDIT: Marine

I continue answering the same questions..true....but it is a discussion board....entertaining at least....and no..i don't think i lost anything... I have asked questions and no one answers anything with an adult response..just more name calling and accusations.... Just b/c the majority answering on here doesn't make them right...

Marine,

ALSO...you seem to be the only one sensible so far.....The only thing i said was i didn't like it when a mother wasn't discreet...That and if your in someone elses house especially respect their wishes.... That got me labeled as a misogynist, ignorant, woman hater.... Thanks for at least listening to what i was saying instead of throwing words in my mouth....appreciate it.

EDIT: However...your right...no sense trying to carry on a discussion with people who prefer to make quips and attacks instead of discussing things...... It is time to watch that roast of hasselhoff i DVR'ed....Everyone else can show their maturity by posting some more nonsese below me....

SS -

Give it a rest you have made several 'points' long ago and now are exacerbating and argumenetative to a point of earned ridicule.

Move on

LOL..sorry..one last...

ADAD...sorry..missed your post in response to the diaper changing.... Didn't want you to think i was ignoring you... As far as your situation..there are always extenuating circumstances....Your situation was unique and can be understandable..... Thanks for carrying on a conversation a bit too...

I'll bite one last time...and make it clear I'm done...I have to wait for the Box to reboot anyways....

As to your query about the stepfather's home, I noted you characterized her reaction as "a meltdown" rather than a simple response to his statements. He's reasonable. She's hysterical. That's classic misogynist language.

Are you really playing games like that?? I was there...i seen it...You're saying i was ignorant and misogynist b/c you don't agree with or like what i said.... Now you are trying to play word games with it...you "words are sounding hippocritical"...(is that better)

Honestly...everyone...reread the posts in this series....I tried carrying on a conversation and all i got was attacks....you know i'm right loretta if you go back and reread this....but since i don't agree with you my post got deleted....reread it..seriously....i just did....all i got was attacked b/c i don't agree with you...and since I'm not on the same wavelength as a few of you everyone gets a gang mentality and starts attacking....then try to play word games... "i didn't say you were ignorant or misogynist..i said your words sounded like it" ...really...... Marine is right...i keep falling for the bait....Just remember this if you are ever outnumbered in a discussion and feel like everyone would rather attack your character than discuss anything....

I just think enough is enough. now I gonna go down to MickyD's and piss in the Street in front of it.

Silent Shogun, you are very sensitve to everyone here's reaction to you, but you are clearly an insensitive person yourself. You intend to offend, but don't like to be offended. Here are your first few comments on this article in order. How do they read to you now? Sound insensitve? Because they are and you are.

I don't like it when women refuse to cover up in a public place. I don't want my kids looking at your saggy boobs! (J/K'ing) Yea yea yea...I know it is natural...but so is urinating...More people can pee than can lactate so you could argue it is even more natural...that doesn't mean i can urinate in front of your kids ...i would end up a red dot on a computer screen somewhere if i whipped it out in public...#1.3 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:18 AM EDT

Your right..there is nothing gross about it...nothing gross about urinating either....they are both natural functions....and i don't want to see you do either....or ...if you do it undiscreetely...don't get mad when i undiscreetely stare...#1.6 - Sun Aug 15, 2010

HAHA...control you?? Lady...i think you have gone out on a limb there...stop believing everything in the feminist books you read.....and to say it is evil men..there are women too, as Becky pointed out, who don't want to see someones fist sized nipples..... Like i said already...If you are covered up in a public place i don't care. Comparing it to urinating was just a way to show people that just because it is natural doesn't mean everyone else wants to see you do it...#1.14 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:09 PM EDT

No one said a woman shouldn't feed her child....just cover up. I'm going to start taking pics everytime a woman has it whipped out..that is legal too.#1.17 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:21 PM EDT

She should have to cover up in a public place...i don't want my kids seeing that and I don't want to see a saggy boob when i'm trying to eat.It is legal to take pictures of someone in a public venue...only when privacy is expected (Home, Rest Room, etc) is it illegal to take pics of someone. Whats the problem?? I'm just brought to tears when a lady is showing the beauty of a natural occurrence.#1.20 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:41

How is it lying? And yes..i know she was covered up.. If YOU had read all the posts..you would have seen i said the manager was out of line....she was covered up so it wasn't an issue at all...i was talking about women that have everything hanging out.#1.23 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:20 PM EDT

I'll be very discreet and cover it up while doing it daddy.

Sounds like my real dad,

Silent:

ADAD...sorry.

No worries. Water under the bridge;-)

We can all learn from each other. Sometimes my humor goes too far or is misunderstood. Feel free to let me know. My humor is an acquired taste...hehe

ME: I think a woman should be discreet
Everyone else: Your a masogynist....ignorant...go get your blanket and go to bed....Your trying to control women..bla bla bla...

Someone has a reading comprehension.

I just wish she would have stayed in the restaurant and made the management call the police. Dissent is our highest form of patriotism. Being arrested to bring to light an unjustice and prejudice is neccessary.