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Unsung Heroes: Women in the Bull Riding Industry

Seeded on Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:21 PM EDT
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There are some extremely good bull hands that are women, and I'd just like to pay them the credit they are due!

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Loretta Kemsley

Being a stock contractor doesn't just mean being the one standing on the back of the chutes. There is more that goes into raising bulls, and a good share of that work is done by women. There are a whole lot of handy chicks out there that are married to stock contractors that feed, doctor, haul and care for bulls and cattle daily. They are really the unsung heroes of the bucking bull industry.LeAnn Hart and Sara Best-McCoy are two great examples of that. LeAnn is a woman who can balance being a mom, being a role model to kids everywhere, photography and a singing career and still can go out and feed cows or get a bull out of the pasture. If that's not a stock contractor, I don't know what is! And Sara is just a hand on a horse, with bulls and everything else she does

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Reply#1 - Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:21 PM EDT
mstanley2265

Good article to bring up front, we women are important to our society, often overlooked, unappreciated, etc., but we keeping those gents moving. LOL

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#1.1 - Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:40 PM EDT
Jeff Jefferson-912478

They are really the unsung heroes of the bucking bull industry.LeAnn Hart and Sara Best-McCoy are two great examples of that.

After the 9-11 memorials, maybe I'm a little too sensitive but I take offense to calling these people heroes.

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#1.2 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:52 PM EDT
mstanley2265

why? this isn't a 9-5 high dollar job, anyone that gets up goes to work does a good job and then goes home 5 and 6 days a week is a hero of sorts. Not the Superman great person in a disaster but none the less keeps our economy and nation rolling.

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#1.3 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

I don't believe she meant an insult to the 911 heroes. "Unsung Heroes" is the name of a country music song that fits the theme of her post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3glgoPGvLs

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#1.4 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:08 PM EDT
Jeff Jefferson-912478

Oh...don't know too much about country music. I don't listen to it unless I don't have a choice; elevator, on hold, etc.

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#1.5 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
Loretta Kemsley

LOL. That's okay. I feel the same about hip hop and hard rock.

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#1.6 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:18 PM EDT
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bilweeler

Sometimes we're surprised by the results when we let everyone show what they can do.

Some pretty tough hombres in this crowd....

    Reply#2 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:17 AM EDT
    Loretta Kemsley

    Last night, I received an email from a friend who was concerned I was promoting animal cruelty with this seed. Since this is on the minds of many because of the claims of animal rights activists, I thought I’d address it here.

    I grew up around cowboys, including rodeo cowboys. Not far from us was Andy Juragi’s place. Andy was a leading rodeo stock producer at the time. He held rodeos at his place once a month. Since I was a regular there, I was allowed behind the chutes and in the arena.

    Years later, when attending a rodeo, there were animal rights activists picketing out front. I stopped and talked to them. Not one had ever attended a rodeo or been behind the chutes, so none of them could have known how the bucking stock are handled. They’d been told by another animal rights activists what to say. They readily admitted that person had also never been behind the chutes. I realize their hearts are in the right place, but I do wish they’d get the facts before spouting falsehoods.

    My friend, who cares deeply about all animals, obviously heard the propaganda put out by these groups that don’t have the facts. Here’s what she wrote:

    These poor animals are tied up around the testicles so it causes excruciating pain, they are electrocuted just the second be f ore they leave the box sp\o they go crazy from pain............

    Let’s take the concern about their testicles first. If what she describes was actually happening, I’d be outraged. But it isn’t true. Here’s a photo of a bull where you can see his testicles are not even close to the flank strap. You can also see the flank strap is not excessively tight. If it was, you would see it embedded deep in his flesh. It isn’t. It’s not even creating a slight depression in his flesh. My own waist bands have been tighter than this. This is a typical fit for flank straps. Anyone who wants to check it out further should search for “bucking bulls” and look at lots of photos.

    http://www.bonsallbuckingbulls.com/bonsallbuckingbulls-cgi/gallery/showgallery.pl?20110620091927

    The area just in front of a horse or bull’s hind legs is called the flank, thus the belts are called “flank straps.” The flank is naturally touchy. Some animals are extremely ticklish there. The sole reason they use flank straps is to encourage the horse or bull to kick high as they buck. That is the natural reaction when the flanks are touched. Horses have to be trained not to buck when their flanks are touched, as anyone who has ridden double can tell you. When you ride double on a horse, the second rider’s legs hang down over the flank. Horses that aren’t trained different will buck if the rider grips with their legs. I mention this to show it is not the underbelly that is important, but the flank itself.

    No one wants to harm the testicles of a bull. Bulls are used for breeding, so healthy testicles are important. The flank straps do not touch the testicles. They are like a man's belt. The bulls could not buck if they were so tight as to cause pain. They would collapse instead. The bulls would buck without the flank strap. The strap simply encourages them to buck higher. If you still have doubts about their testicles being crushed, ask a man you know what he could do if his testicles were crushed. I’m willing to bet he’ll tell you he’d collapse.

    Her second concern, about electrocution, refers to the use of hot shots, which have less power than a taser. When I was young, hot shots were commonly used around chutes, especially on the ranches. They are still available today but their usage is greatly lessened. Rodeo contractors don’t rely upon them anymore. Just like the training methods for horses have evolved, so have the training methods for bulls.

    They train their bucking stock to move into and out of the chutes voluntarily. If you watch a bull after he’s rid of his rider, you’ll see he’s searching for the gate to leave the arena. This is because he knows there’s food waiting as a reward for a job well done. He’s also been trained to move easily into the chute by use of food as a reward.

    The bulls want out of the chute, so they don't need any encouragement most of the time. Occasionally they hang back but not often. When they do, if the cowboy can't convince them to go out, he gets off and they let the bull go out alone because it is against the rules to help the cowboy once the gate is open. If they used hot shots in the chute, whether the gate was open or closed, that would endanger bull, the cowboy on his back and the people helping him. It would also teach the bull to hate the chute and undo all of the training they’ve done to get him used to and willing to enter the chute on his own.

    These bulls are not wild. They are domesticated and used to working with people. Rodeo stock are taken care of very well. They are worth a fortune. Some of these bulls are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. All of them are worth somewhere in the thousands. They are only bucked a few times a year. For instance, in the Milwaukee rodeo this month, one of the best bulls there hadn't been bucked since January. The rest of the time, they are in pastures at home.

    As to bucking, if you watch, most of them continue to buck even after the ropes and the cowboy are gone. Bucking is as natural to horses and bulls as running. You can watch them in pastures doing the exact same moves you see in the arena. This is a form of play for them. It is also a crucial skill for animals in the wild in case a mountain lion lands on their back.

    I hope this eases the concerns of people who’ve heard these false assertions about how the bulls are treated. The Professional Bull Riding Association has cameras right over the chutes and broadcasts what goes on in the chutes before every ride. You can watch everything that goes on in the chutes, so if you are still concerned, find a PBR rodeo that is being broadcast on one of the sports channels and watch. That way you’ll see for yourself and won’t have to rely upon others to tell you.

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    Reply#3 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT
    mstanley2265

    Good Explanation of what really occurs in Real Time: :)

    I always figured it was the riders that were being abused by the stock even when just 'out on the range' so to speak. :) and I'd bet you have some good stories about that!

    That said People do not need to start with being against something unless they have a level of Knowledge about the something. More often I too have found someone howling literally about something and when you talk to them you find out as you did, they don't have a clue about even the most basic of information on the issue. They were taking 'someone' else's word for it. geez

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    #3.1 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:03 PM EDT
    Loretta Kemsley

    I once owned a Brahma bull who was trained as part of a comedy act. He would buck out of the chute, stop when he got to the center of the arena and lay down. The cowboy would have to get off, of course, and then try to get him up. The whole routine was about the cowboy wanting to win a prize in bull riding and the bull refusing to cooperate. The crowds loved it.

    Frosty was a love. My daughters adored him even though they weren't allowed in his pen. He would come over to the fence and put his head down so they could scratch behind his horns and ears. He loved lemons and would do any trick they wanted in exchange for their lemons.

    The same couldn't be said for the cowboys who worked for me. They refused to feed him lemons or take the chance of scratching his head. They weren't supposed to bug him, but they just had to get in the pen and show their macho. He'd chase them out and, if they weren't quick enough, he'd hook a horn in their back pocket and send them sailing over the fence.

    Before I had him, he was owned by a rodeo clown who retired. I had to sell him during my divorce because I moved to a place where I couldn't keep him. The man who bought him called a couple of years later and asked if I was going to be at the Tehachapi rodeo. I said I'd love to see him perform. Some of the teen girls who trained with me went too, as did my daughters -- who took lots of lemons.

    Well, he was behind the chutes in a large pen all by himself. He came right over and put his head down to be scratched, then started doing his tricks for the lemons. Some of the young cowboys came over to warn us about how "dangerous" he was. I suspect they were there more to flirt with my students than to save our lives. One of them was into the macho stuff too and climbed into the pen on the other side of the corral from us, a distance of about thirty feet. Frosty was busy getting lemons and didn't notice him at first. I tried to tell the teen boy to get out of the pen, but golly, gee, whiz, what would this woman know about bulls?

    He got up close to Frosty before Frosty turned to look at him. Well, it didn't take Frosty long to decide how to resolve the situation. Frosty whirled and chased him clear across the pen, put that horn in his rear pocket and hurled him over the fence. Then he turned and strolled back over to us, putting his head down to be scratched. The girls were laughing hysterically, and the boys slid out of sight. I suspect they decided sometimes women can give good advice.

    ROTFLOL

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    #3.2 - Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:32 PM EDT
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