Gingrich: Poor Kids Don't Work

Those adult janitors are unionized. Newt doesn't care what they do--as long as there is no union and as long as the 1% don't pay anything toward it.

a clever [not!] idea for union busting: hire children after child labor laws are repealed

Newt is a mean and stupid man. Is this what the republican party has become?

This GOP campaign is a laughing stock to the rest of the world!!!

Newt is a mean and stupid man. Is this what the republican party has become?

Some things are just worth repeating.

according to Newt, children aren't supposed to be carefree with time for a childhood: children are supposed to starting working as soon as it possible in order to take care of their basic needs and if it takes away from time to be educated, there's no problem there because they will be 21st century serfs . . . for the rest of their short, miserable lives

The kids that lack work habits are the very rich ones, they just buy the sat answers. One example is Paris Hilton.

some kids just didn't care about money enough

ah, but you see, that's the main thing Republicans do care about.

He is not just a sickening excuse for a man he is a vicious bastard and a fat ugly sack of putrifying self righteous drivel.

No wonder duh republican party finds him so fetching.

He looks like mom.

i took it as he meant their mom, specifically, but...

God forbid we find them job skills and a way off the gov'ment rolls. Get over your self people. Black unemployment at 15.5% and you think 2-3 hours a day working is a bad idea. Nice.

well I guess kids going to school is "on the govt rolls" but isn't education how we are to get them job skills... maybe we could teach janitorial skills in kindergarten...

black unemployment at 15.5% how high do you think that will go when poor white kids take alll the janitor jobs away from adult blacks???

> Black unemployment is not controlled by the poor. It's controlled by rich white men at the top of the power chain.

No, its controlled by stupid black kids coming in for a job interview with pants around their knees, not able to speak English or anything you can understand, a bad attitude, sloppy habits…you get the picture.

Loretta:

You're either naïve or not very bright about the ways of the world.

Since I'm doing the hiring and signing the paychecks maybe it they who should learn about my culture and values?

Actually that's pretty much how I learned things in the 60s getting my first job? I cut my Beatle length hair and got that job to pay for my university.

With thinking like yours, I agree, We B Doomed.

Not every place in the country is Beaver Cleaver Land.

Since when is Newt an expert on really poor kids from really poor neighborhoods?

Newt is perhaps the most corrupt to the hard core legislator to be in government over the last 30 years.

God forbid we find them job skills and a way off the gov'ment rolls.

And how many people have 'job skills' right now and still no job?

I guess what needs to happen is we need to bring back the child sweat shops, because that'll make everything better. That way we can teach six year old kids how their toys get manufactured!

/s

Loretta Kemsley

You sure have some silly ideas.

> then and only then will discrimination be a thing of the past.

Discrimination will always be with us since that is the very key of survival and evolution. When we have the government making us not discriminate we have home loans out to people who will never be able to make their payments hence the 2007 housing crash.

When we have government not allowing profiling we spend $2 trillion /year on "defense" and homeland security like the TAS when that money could be going to more productive things. Instead we're stripping down and frisking old ladies at the airport and having wars where there is no threat real threat. All in the name of no discrimination or political correctness.

"Well-qualified people can't get a job" because our government is out of control and has spent us into oblivion. Spending $2 trillion/year on "defense" and silliness does not produce anything that anyone wants to buy.

You seem to have an agenda against old white men. And I do too since they seem to be part of the problem and in many cases seem to run things. But the people who are running the country are all the special interest groups like the corporations, unions, foreign governments and other special interest groups who have the ability to funnel billions of dollars to lobbyists. We are letting these people make whores out of our lawmakers and corrupt our democracy and capitalism.

But regarding discrimination and the poor black kid maybe you should read what Dr. Bill Cosby has to say about it: http://www.eightcitiesmap.com/transcript_bc.htm

I actually don't care about the poor so much. We will always the poor…for many reasons including some of their own making.

But I do care and fund science and medical research. I care and help that Stanford grad student who will find the cure for cancer. That will benefit all of humanity...including the black kid in the ghetto who will never make it to work on time among other problems.

Hmmm, WeBDoomed joined Newsvine 11/2011. Has no friends on NV, and posts racist comments. Who are you a re-reg of?

Rush Limbaugh and Pat Roberston and others are here.

The CEOs of the biggest banks come on here to rant and B.S , they spew forth there lies. They stole billlions and are unhappy that we know that the SEC was destroyed.

Henry paulson was the Gold mann sacchs plant in the white house. So many criminals all trying do out do each other. No one is accountable and they go free to steal more from main street.

The OWS is at wall street because wall street owns the congress.

It is easy to blame the poor. The solutions to the economy are here and available. We have alot of smart people in the USA and the solutions to the economic problem are obvious. The media concentration is the main problem about getting these ideas out and into the main stream.

What is wrong? The a-hole banking families and corporate elites destroy everything else and only care for themselves. That is the true state of the USA today. Its all destroying consuming 1% are out for themselves and there ideology.

What do we need? We need to solve the congestion problem in americas cities. How? The technology is now here. It can be done. We can make congestion are problem of the past. If american cities have low congestion, that means they will be the best place to do business.

We need to separate traditonal banking where loans are made from other types of banking. Why?

Then these banks have to loan money out to credit worthy individuals and the money multiplication will do the rest to stimulate the economy. The banks right now make more money on speculation then on the interest on loans. They can use there ideology to hurt the economy and there own stockholders.

There is always more.

A big part of the problem is compensation (of all kinds) disparity. A rough example:

• Category ------- Compensation -------- Ratio CxO:X
• CEO/CxO -------- $10,000,000 ---------- 1
• Professional ------ $100,000 ---------- 100
• Skilled labor -------- $60,000 ---------- 167
• Unskilled labor ----- $20,000 -----------500

This separation in compensation is not sustainable for the existence of a middle class. At most, from an economic standpoint, these ratios should be no more than 10:1, 17:1, and 30:1. A tenth the disparity that we have seen develop over the last 30 years. We can do this in one of 2 ways. Cap compensation or cap compensation disparity.

1. Capping compensation in absolute terms is not a good idea. It artificially freezes wages and does not allow for compensation to change with the success of the business. This is the rising tide lifts no boats approach. And would require a change in the law to allow for pay raises. This is a cumbersome micromanagement approach that is inefficient and inherently unwieldy.
2. Capping disparity ratios. This approach leaves the market in control of absolute compensation amounts based on what the business can afford. But it does not leave anyone that contributes to the success of the business behind. This is the rising tide lifts all boats approach. This approach does not require any further changes to the law. The market determines the absolute levels of each pay range. The law only addresses the ratio which remains constant regardless of the actual values.

Separating banking from speculative investment is an important separation to reestablish. As is setting strict limits on leverage, say 15:1 max.

While novel, that idea reeks of the kind of two layer logic that the American electorate punishes, in this case, because a naive view of it could be easily distorted into the mistaken belief that it would bring about full-blown socialism. Suggesting such an arrangement would fall into a category adjacent to, "Mr. Reagan will raise taxes, and so will I. He won't tell you. I just did." Of course, we all forget that Ronald Reagan (a man I voted for) actually lied, and two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime. Do we recall Reagan as a liar and remember that it was Mondale who told the truth? A few of us perhaps, but most Americans don't give a second thought to such things, and will believe the lies over and over again, and punish truth-tellers over and over again.

After 30 years of reaganomics, the disappearing middle class, the skyrocketing disparity in income and wealth, the 2008 economic collapse and the future collapses that will follow if this disparity and gambling are not curtailed, I am not worried about the voting public. They will wake up and they will elect another FDR if the right doesn't realize the mistakes they are making.

Let's hope so, Tim.

Let's hope so, Tim.

Keep in mind that it may take something as drastic as the Great Depression. Obama may have forestalled this realization by stopping the downturn in 2009. His success, may actually be a set back to getting things really fixed.

Gingrich has no freakin clue how to create jobs. He's a history professor, and not a good one at that!

Newt has the biggest Kazumbucks on a man and hairy ones at that.Newt wears a sports bra.

I might be why he is upset all the time. Man boobs are not good when they hang down at your knees. hey Newt?

95% of what he ever earned was probably illegal.

It was probably perfectly legal, but highly unethical.

No it was illegal, Not probably. The SEC needs to refer criminal activity to the DOJ to prosecute. The SEC and other regulator agencies failed to do this.

The SEC settles out of court when it can't hide the criminality. The SEC is a destroyed and failed agency of the United states. Its a successful at helping criminals stay out of jail and aiding the theft of trillions of dollars.

The SEC needs to be investigated for Obstruction of justice for over 100 years and we need these people to go to jail. They are worse then the criminals they are suppose to police.

The FBI failed, AGs have failed. We have only one Judge to stand up to there people. One against so many. The rest of the judges are corrupt.

http://ripley8.newsvine.com/_news/2011/11/11/8752025-finally-a-judge-stands-up-to-wall-street

Pathetic stab. Keep trying. This is a plan to help develop job skills when the "parents" fail, and this is what you come up with? Wow.

What a bunch of crap. Kids belong in school getting an education so they can be prepared for the workforce. Not put in janitor positions in the 7th or 8th grade.

You can put the kids in your family in a janitor position-see how they like it.

No one is suggesting they stop going to school. Just suggesting they work. BTW, they would have to obey the labor laws in place. Try to read, but not too much.

Why do all kids need to be lumped in here. I worked from age 14, paid for my college and am now in the cross hairs of barry obama. Some kids do not have the parents at home to push them to work and teach work ethics. These kids have no chance of getting out of poverty with out these skills. BTW, there were suggestions of jobs. It is easy for you to key in on the janitor. The first two suggestions were working in the library and admin office. Get over your self. They kids need help not hand outs.

Why do all kids need to be lumped in here. I worked from age 14, paid for my college and am now in the cross hairs of barry obama.

You were going so well there and then crashed into the wall at the end. Care to elaborate on the jab at the prez?

Why do all kids need to be lumped in here.

Why does Newt lump all poor kids together by saying that "Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works". As many have pointed out, many poor children do have parents that work, they just can't make enough to get out of poverty.

onipup,

teach work ethics.

Poor kids have lots of experience with the work ethic. They grow up just like middle class and affluent kids watching the adults around them. Those that work and those that don't in all the levels. And what they see is different than what the middle class used to see and the affluent still see. They see that work does not slow ones descent into deeper and deeper poverty. They see that work takes away ones ability to be there for friends and family, while sinking deeper into poverty.

They learn this lesson well. Adding their own job experience to this lesson is not going to change the outcome, until we change the results of working for the poor. Until the poor that work start seeing their level of poverty decrease as a result of that effort, they will not see the fictional "work ethic" you expect. It is fictional because that example of the "work ethic" does not exist for them.

And before you go to examples of the exceptions, think about it. Do you really want to make the argument that the average person should be exceptional? Do you really demand that the kids of the poor MUST be exceptional?

Maybe he's referring to the 70% of minorities born to unmarried mothers who choose to draw a check (and they are not artists) rather than work. There are generations of "poor" who know how to milk the system. Now we are paying for dinner for "poor" kids who are "starving" even though their parent is getting food stamps. Just saying.

What Gingrich is doing is not new for him. He has been advocating the idea of group homes and state run boarding schools for awhile. Get a kid young enough and you can make him /her into anything you want. The entire concept of state run orphanages is quite scary. The thought of privately run orphanages, getting public money is even more scary. The thought of religious, privately run orphanages, getting public money, is extremely scary.

What is really funny is that there are more white people on the gov dole than minorities. Been to the carolina's, virginia, alabama?

These wackos that condone nitwit Gingrich's position on child labor, are so brainwashed about the poor taking all their money-they look the other way when corporate welfare is siphoning off billions of dollars.

They worry about poor people getting a check then look the other way when THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER IS PAYING MULTI BILLION DOLLAR SUBSIDIES TO OIL COMPANIES THAT MAKE MULTI BILLION DOLLAR PROFITS EACH QUARTER.

Yes there are welfare cheats that refuse to work-but no where near the magnitude of corporate welfare. Newty never mentions that though.

Republicans make me sick.

@waukone,

But y'know, ALL those white folks on the dole are sincerely down on their luck and need help, whereas ALL those minorities are lazy @$#%@%!! who are gaming the system /S/.

Newt Gingrich is an idiot---that he's the GOP front-runner (right now) tells me that the party is filled to the gunwales with fellow travelers.

Get a kid young enough and you can make him /her into anything you want.

Isn't that the Catholic attitude? Get them young enough and they will always be a Catholic?

Here's the disturbing thing about what Newt said. What if he's thinking that, since the parents are using the system, the state might as well put the kids to work, at a pittance, to "recoup" the "losses" by the state? The kids are sitting ducks because, as minors, they can't really speak up for themselves, and doing something like this to the parents would surely result in legal actions all over the place? Make them janitors who will maintain state-funded schools and reduce the costs to the system? His sardonic remarks reflect his bitter bigotry against the poor and his belief that the poor somehow deserve to be low-paid or unpaid servants to others in this society. I have to wonder if he resented paying child support to the same degree...He was, after all, a deadbeat dad.

His insidious attitudes, assumptions, and assertions have no place in our political or social discourse.

He's bashed the poor for almost two decades in speeches, sound bites, and policy, while deserting sick wives for healthy replacements, being kicked out of Congress and fined $300,000, advocating that children be put in orphanages, and all the other nasty, vitriolic, disgusting rhetoric that comes out of his mouth. It is so bad that other conservatives are appalled at his latest remarks to the point that they openly criticize them. THAT'S how bad his remarks are.

Its a executive from Bank of America or Goldmann sachs... The banking families and Corporate elites love to come on here and spread the racist hate message. He is obviously on company time and being unproductive on his million dollar package with fanciful jargon to hide how he does not pay his tax.

alur

Maybe he's referring to the 70% of minorities born to unmarried mothers who choose to draw a check (

alur

Maybe he's referring to the 70% of minorities born to unmarried mothers who choose to draw a check

Okay, so taking into account only the mothers who are unmarried and only public assistance, you're speaking of only those that give birth to a minority, and only 70% of those. So how many kids is it that Newt's speaking of?

This guy needs to be dropped off at night in Detroit, LA, or Atlanta in a poor neighborhood to see just how many jobs he can find for them kids.

while i certainly appreciate the sentiment, that really just seems to play into the same stereotype he's promoting.

Newt ought to fly into mexico and join a gang. He can have knife fight over an orange peel. He is advocating the same kind of poverty that mexico has for the USA.

One thing about Newt is,he doesn't ever have to do the kinds of things he promotes,and that is why it won't fly with the poor.

Maybe if he did public service every week (without pay) of course, maybe someone would take him serious.Until then,he'll go on making millions being the celebrity that created America for us.

He's a legend in his own mind.

wow, that is totally off base and very raciest. doubt it will be collapsed, but you should be ashamed.

So let me get this right. Newt says that people need to work and develop job skills and that's grounds for calling him a plantation owner? Guess we all have a tough road ahead of us. Look, Barry and the rest of the left does not care about bringing you up. They want to hand it out. Give a man a EBT card and he eats until other peoples money runs out. Teach a man to work and he can help others along the same path.

"Look, Barry and the rest of the left does not care about bringing you up."

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act included several job makers. Roads across the country were worked on thanks to it.

"Teach a man to work and he can help others along the same path."

where are these job teaching seminars republicans are supporting? I would love to attend one to improve my employment opportunities.

Yes, the old fable says it's better to teach a man to fish than to give him a fish. Republicans have completely misunderstood this simple moral and focus only on the part that says you shouldn't give to the poor. But where's the teaching that's supposed to replace charity? What about those individuals who can't work?

What Newt is suggesting should fit right in with the way the left thinks. Since gov'ment believes the parents have failed to teach the youth job skills and work ethic, then gov'ment will step in and save the children with jobs. There are no racial undertones here. He is suggesting a way to broaden the tax base and add to the productive society.

Look.....kids need to take what ever job is available. If I had to start as a janitor, I would have done it. My first job that was taxed was working in a market. I mopped floors, stocked shelves and cleaned bathrooms. Wow, I guess I was close to being a janitor. Before this, I was too young (in the eyes of the nanny state) to work. I grew a garden and sold the harvest in my front yard and cut grass in my neighborhood. Point here is you start at the bottom, work your way up and this is what Newt is suggesting here. Helping kids grow up.

Keep your bliinders on pal. Hate takes a long time to break.

Look.....kids need to take what ever job is available

Just what kind of society do we want to raise our kids in? We are supposedly the wealthiest nation on earth and yet we have millions in poverty and the best suggestion out there is that kids clean toilets?

Our system has been terribly corrupted by an oligarchy that has sucked the nations wealth right out through the top.

Talk about "class warfare". Gingrich is the commanding general. He has waged this war for decades now. The fantasy world that Newt lives in is made up welfare cheaters and a "lower class" that won't work. It's his world, not the real world.

This is the same guy who sucked $1.6 of taxpayer money out of Fannie Mae for being a "historian". Yea, right.

" then gov'ment will step in and save the children with jobs. "

what jobs? We can't supply adults with enough jobs, so we increase the workforce and spread the supply even thinner?

As for child labor, I think 35 hours a week of education is laborious enough and much more important than teaching the soul numbing experience that is minimum wage labor. Terrible lessons to be learned there, like "Your work is worth nothing. No matter how many more burgers you flip than your coworker, you'll earn the same amount.", "People are stubborn greedy dicks who will flip out on you because you got their order right.", "Wait, the person who runs the business doesn't even own it?", "how to make change, cook standardized frozen foods, take orders, and nothing that will go towards a worthwhile career."

So let me get this right. Newt says that people need to work and develop job skills and that's grounds for calling him a plantation owner?

It seems to me that he is saying that adults should quit working as janitors in schools so that children can be hired to do the job for less money.

Well look everyone...it's our favorite troll Amos

Say hi everyone

Loretta, heads up. Troll.

Trailer parks are just what Gingrich said poor neighborhoods are full of people with "no habits of working nor getting paid for their endeavors unless it's illegal. Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works, So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of 'I do this and you give me cash,' unless it's illegal."

Sounds like those NASCAR watching redneck single wide dwellers to me. Trailer parks are just full of trash that sell crack and meth to each other, while crying over #3, in their real tree camo and beating their 7 little inbred kids with ricketts right before they pass out from drinking one too many cheap beers.

I always laugh at how trailer dwellers act like they are living in anything other than a white trash ghetto.

Not all trailer parks are full of white trash. Many contain upstanding families with a low income (not equatable to "trash"), and in my area of the country, loads of middle-class retirees. Even in Ohio, I had two grandparents who lived in trailers, one with each lawn perfectly manicured, and the other was at a lovely marina next to a popular river. Neither were low-income, this just worked out best for them at the time. I'd go for less stereo-typing.

Nope, I grew up in the south (SC), and can tell you that even if the trailer itself is kinda nice, the park they live in is trash.

You can move a trailer out of the park, but you will never get the trash out of the trailer park.

Head inland Loretta, towards the Salton Sea.

Hey, the Salton Sea was one helluva vacation destination in the '60's. Right?

That's the problem, the coast is always nice. Even in @!$%#hole SC you have Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Hilton Head....but you go 20 miles inland and it looks like Deliverance 2.

They make it nice for the tourists.

Absolutely. Florida too. The costal areas are pretty and touristy, but the interior of the state gets a bit scary.

I don't mind the high desert. I've got a chunk of land in SE Oregon that is pretty much high desert. But it is a little better than Palm Springs type high desert. It's certainly better than that swamp @!$%# I grew up around in SC.

He is addressing the breakdown of the family unit

Well, he should know all about that!

He was addressing the majority of youth in the inner cities who tear up their places of education, commit crimes in their own neighborhood and murders their neighbor while all the while destroying their culture and heritage.

Yes, I'm quite certain that Newt knows the majority of youth in inner cities, and he is just reaching out to them. (sarc)

So how will changing child labor laws affect the breakup of the family unit?

If I remember correctly,the last poor woman who tried to keep her child in a charter school was arrested and charged with fraud.

I feel for you Loretta...recovering former Republican (now Indy) myself. I tolerated Newt because he and the GOP were full of good ideals at one time (that glorious Contract With America).

It's been 20 years (8 under W, with GOP majorities), and I'm still waiting for that Contract to be met (pardon the sarcasm and cynicism). And now, the current "GOP" is certainly old, but it's definitely no longer grand, and as a party, it has (for me) pooped out years ago.

And now Newt (or Mitt, or somebody) makes inane statements like this...Obama may seem useless, but he certainly isn't classless. And with the economy like it is, it doesn't help to kick people when they're down, especially if they can still vote.

He was addressing the majority of youth in the inner cities who tear up their places of education, commit crimes in their own neighborhood and murders their neighbor while all the while destroying their culture and heritage

Well, suppose for a minute that he was addressing this group (and I'm not sure they are a majority in the inner city): Can you imagine this group of teens being motivated to be janitors at any wage? Is Newt aware that janitors nowadays use heavy floor scrubbers, polishers and other equipment instead of brooms and dustpans? One of the big objections to child labor was that children were working with dangerous and/or heavy equipment.

So we're going to recruit kids who, in Newt's terms, have never worked and pay them to be janitors. First we'll have to teach them how to clean, which is a job few people love to do, even at home, then we'll need to hire supervisors to make sure the job is done correctly. Yeah, sure, that's gonna get the kids real committed to school.

For a look at some inner city students, I would suggest Newt read "And Still We Rise" by L.A. Times reporter Miles Corwin. The point of Corwin's book is that not even the most gifted students of inner city schools can succeed without help. And the best help Newt can offer is to hire them for janitorial work. Gosh, by golly, I'm just impressed as all get out.

#12.9

Spin it all you want but the inescapable conclusion is that Newt is the Republican Field Marshall in the right's class warfare against the middle class.

The one on the left looks like he's having a good time.

careful, Mr. X; you might give Newter a chubbie.

The one on the left looks like he's having a good time.

Look closer; his eyes aren't in that smile.

baloney

It's quite easy to disagree if someone is well-informed and understands the dynamics that keep the poor from being able to attain a better financial status.

I think it's a culturally spurned lack of dynamics that poor lazy adults pass on to their unfortunate children.

And it turns them into under employed libertarians, collecting signatures for Ron Paul.

I think it turns them into lazy Democrats who use the excuses that have been passed down to them as a barrier to prevent them from having to become valuable members of society. Poor people in the United States aren't poor because they're smart ambitious and talented. Ron Paul is a fantastic candidate by the way. I'll admit, if I was begat of parents who didn't instill a strong work ethic and a strict adherence to the concept of personal responsibility I'd likely feel threatened by his ideals. I intend to vote for him. Undoubtedly that doesn't trouble you, he won't win and will only draw 'Republican' voters from their nominee. Bush the third will very likely enjoy a second term. Did you check out any of my articles while you were reconnoitering my page to get personal or was it exclusively a superficial thing? I think you'd enjoy a few of them.

Ron Paul is a fantastic candidate by the way.

For everything he says that I like, he says something I hate.

The basic concept of government is that we surrender an amount of our freedom (liberty) for security. Libertarians try to dial back the dialectic too far. They are wrong about economics and they are wrong about social justice. They try to construct a world from which you can deduce your human decisions as if solving a geometry problem. It's a simplicity verging on paranoia. IMHO.

And I can't worry about some billionaire feeling like he is paying too much in taxes. That's his problem, and I would like to make it worse.

It's quite easy to disagree if someone is well-informed and understands the dynamics that keep the poor from being able to attain a better financial status.

Certainly I don't need to bombard you with that tired old statement from Ben Franklin regarding liberty and security. Unless of course you're acceptant of the backdrop featured in 1984.

They are wrong about economics and they are wrong about social justice.

They must be. They've been in power for the bulk of the last century and because of them we're over 15 trillion in debt, and they've been at the spark of every major war into which we've involved our country. Pardon the sarcasm but the stupidity of your statement called for it.

And I can't worry about some billionaire feeling like he is paying too much in taxes. That's his problem, and I would like to make it worse.

If that billionaire was on the brink of bankruptcy I'll bet you could employ the help of a Democrat or a Republican to allow said moneybags to fail due to their inability maintain suitable business practices. Oh wait! Those are the political parties that have been bailing them out?

My first blockquote was supposed to be the first sentence of your second paragraph. My mistake.

Sabu started the account 12/2/2011.

DNFTT.

Is Ron Paul smart? Hell yea. He has a hidden agenda and is mean like a rattle snake.

He is better then the other candidates in the GOP.

Though the best Candidate I have seen and would be a real president is Mr Buddy Roemer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7Dbm1EmWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atqGowRJpkw&feature=relmfu

Can we trust him? Republicans say one thing and do another.

There is more.

The first link is fox news and fox news reporter does not like what Buddy is saying. She interrupts him and trys to talk about socialism.

The fox news reporter is a nut wack job. Then the propaganda about the cost of doing business. Its made up B.S.

The fox news reporter is a nut wack job.

A lot of them seem to be. What's with that?

Well when you see this video you will understand. Its the video the Kochs do the voice over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMXYE_50Ts

What's Ron Pauls hidden agenda?

What's Ron Pauls hidden agenda?

Serfdom. Plutocratic "warlords" with total control over their fiefdoms. All in the guise of free markets and liberty. He wants no counter balance to the abuses of the wealthy. And that wealth is the only power.

Ron Paul represents a small lunatic fringe. His policies, his political acumen and his demeanor are repudiated by the vast majority of clear thinking people. His following is a small minority of an already radicalized Republican party so he's a lunatic fringe leader of a small minority of a radical right-wing lunatic fringe.

His policies, if adopted would lead to ruthless lawless society reminiscent of the 19th century wild west.

Fortunately the vast majority of American's realize that 19th century policies won't work for a 21st century world and that we need leaders that have a 21st century worldview.

All of you rich people are a bunch of pathetic greedy crooks that steal from the real producers of the wealth.

My what a big brush you have.

I don't think rich people spend a lot of time reading Newsvine.

My what a big brush you have.

The same brush Newt uses.

Newt is a stupid and criminally insane nut job. Thats saying something nice about him.

Newt you need to go to jail for the things you did. Don't worry your high powered legal team will mess up one day. Then you will put your foot in it and go where you belong.

http://therationalprogressive.com/cms/2011/11/the-war-against-the-poor/

Newt, what kind of job do you have in mind for a little child?

Fox news will never ask this. Why?

Newt stop smoking crack cocaine because one of these days you will get busted. How else can you explain the stupid sh+t that comes out of his mouth.

I am now an early retired multi-millionaire.

Have you created any jobs for poor children lately?

> Have you created any jobs for poor children lately?

No since I'm now retired. But if not I would open a sweat shop and employ lots for 18 hours/day, below minimum wage and terrible working conditions. Then I could even make more money.

Uh huh, and does your mother know you are on the computer again?

Hey weebee.

Above you said you were writing paychecks?

Now you're a retired millionaire?

Put down the beer, you had enough.

I thought the rule was that only one personality per person per seed? How else are we supposed to keep track of republican lies?

Well working as an executive for a bank, its easy. Just fail and get bailed out by the US tax payer.

The executives get paid millions and lie and cheat and don't understand banking and get paid.

Thats great if you can get a job like that. Its just not the reality for people who are not in the banking families or corporate elites.

. Newt Gingrinch is the biggest corporate whore in the republican party. He would eat dog sh+t if asked to do so by corporate elites and banking families.

The pure stupidity in the GOP debates make Donald Trump the perfect stupid moderator.

go, Newt! Gingrich/Santorum 2012!

#sarcasm

I've heard more than one political talking head say the GOP leadership is trying to find a way to get Gingrich out of the race.

Well it is a choice between one flip flopper over another flip flopper.

"I've heard more than one political talking head say the GOP leadership is trying to find a way to get Gingrich out of the race because they know he's embarrassing the GOP and guaranteeing a massive loss in 2012."

who isn't embarrassing the GOP?

Huntsman work for Obama and is a mormon and they will not support him.

Has Gingrich ever realized that its because of the folks in his party who believe the way he does that has kept a large portion of our society oppressed?

not to be snarky to you, but 'duh! that's the whole point!'

You have that right. It is exactly the type of talk Gingrich uses that polarized politics in the first place. There are some here who definitely prescribe by it, which keeps things the way they are. You can also give credit to Fox "news" for quite a bit of it, too.

It's all predictable. Give the fringe righties something to applaud, while angering the left. make it just volatile enough to last till the next one. The pattern has been seen over and over, in the last three years (the original was during Gingrich's "tenure" as speaker and even before), which not only led to the circus we are seeing in the GOP primary now, which is disenfranchising many in the GOP base, but will almost guarantee a devastating loss come November 2012. He is obviously appealing to a small minority, which might secure him some votes for the caucuses, but not for the general.

Gingrich obviously doesn't see this, nor do the fringe who applaud him.