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Yesterday morning, presidential candidate Rick Santorum made the unambiguously false claim that the Obama Administration wants the government to force Catholics to ordain female priests — a brief the administration filed in the Supreme Court actually says exactly the opposite.
After Triple Primary Loss, Romney Picks Up Santorum's False Claim About Government Picking Church Ministers | ThinkProgress
Seeded on Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:50 PM EST
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Santorum’s opponent Mitt Romney repeated Santorum’s fabricated claim at a campaign event later in the day:
This president is attacking religion, and is putting in place a secular agenda that our forefounders would not recognize. He, uh, he took a position which I thought was interesting which is he said, instead of a church being able to say who their ministers are, the government has to approve who you say your ministers are. He made that decision, and by the way, the church involved went to the Supreme Court, ultimately, to see if they could reverse that decision by the Obama Administration . . . did you know that the Supreme Court voted 9-0 against the president to retain religious liberty.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but Romney really shouldn’t ape Santorum’s inability to get his facts straight. For starters, the Obama Administration did not even come close to saying that the government has to approve church ministers. Rather, as conservative Chief Justice John Roberts explained in the unanimous opinion Romney refers to, the Obama Administration’s position is that “it would violate the First Amendment for courts to apply [anti-discrimination] laws to compel the ordination of women by the Catholic Church or by an Orthodox Jewish seminary.”
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#1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:51 PM ESTNo Mittjob. No little Ricky. It's the likes of you would be deciding who could be clergy and who couldn't if your ilk ever got into enough offices. (God forbid.) Quit projecting your own agenda onto somebody who's said pretty much the opposite.
- 4 votes
It is totally unbelievable that Santorum and Romney could take a labor dispute and turn it into some kind of war on religion. Does that mean anyone taking legal action in a situation they feel amounted to wrongful termination that the EEOC upheld, the EEOC is at war with the revelant industry?
And the conservatives think the liberals are attacking freedom and moral justice in this country! Everyone better take note of what is actually going on here.
PS - I forgot to include Gingrich along with the other two above - but he is really very forgettable anyway, or so the electorate recently seems to think .
- 2 votes
How can these people stand in front of an audience with cameras and make statements that are untrue, and still get votes? How can they claim to live in "the light of God", but they lie! They're self-serving, greedy, and average, at best, in intelligence. Our country needs to hear from the "exceptional" among us. We need thinkers, with an exceptional regard toward "justice for all". We need honest, patriotic people to lead this country. The people we elect need to put the people and our country first, before profit or power. We have no business directing any other country on the path to Democracy or removing the corrupt leadership when we can't provide them with a successful model. Will this election be different since the internet has given people more access to information? Are the majority of Americans searching for the truth? Why aren't we stressing the importance of the election process more in schools? Or the importance of upholding our Constitution or exercising our Bill of Rights? Looks like Romney and Santorum could have used a little more in depth study on these subjects. Can't wait to see one of them in a debate with President Obama, but it's doubtful they will out right lie to his face on issues he is knowledgeable about first hand. I hope someone calls them out on this and makes it clear they lied.
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#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:53 AM ESTNothing I hear from these anti freedom stormtroopers amazes me any more, all I can do is ask what crazed thing will they say next.How anyone can listen to their pleas to be elected to any office is insanity.
- 4 votes
#3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:54 AM EST
They're just trying to whip up their religious base and perpetuate the myth that Obama is waging some sort of religious war. It's ridiculous.
- 5 votes
#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:11 AM ESTI find it hard to believe that neither of these two a$$holes has anyone on their staff that can verify a story before they put in a speech. It's just incredible.
Either they are knowingly lying, they have an inept staff, or they're just plain stupid.
Your choice.
p.s. or all three
- 3 votes
#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:40 AM ESTEither they are knowingly lying, they have an inept staff, or they're just plain stupid.
There is a connection to religion in the sense the defendant in the case was a religious school. You would have to stand on your head with one eye closed and squint with the other to even try to see it as some sort of war on religion.
Are they lying? Maybe, but I do feel they think the public is inept and stupid and willing to believe anything. They continue to push the ridicules and incredible.
- 3 votes
I know a few people who will believe anything bad about the President, and they will eat these lies up. The conspiracy nuts never bother to look for unbiased, or even relatively neutral news; instead they will listen to Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich, and then to what Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, and the rest of their ilk say.
After all that these conspiracy nuts will believe that the government is telling churches which priests to appoint, and what hours to remain open, and that they can no longer sell chocolate cake at church bakesales.
- 3 votes
#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:03 AM ESTI know people like that too. I believe it has to do with racism to a certain extent, but that can't be all of it because they exhibited this closed mind effect during the Bush Jr years too. It's as if they are afraid to look beyond what they are told.
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Loretta, you are absolutely correct. It's as if they have a strange form of read only memory. The demagogues plug a conspiracy chip in, and that's the only thing these people will accept as fact.
- 2 votes
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